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[edit] Discussions Archived

Well, it looks like someone finally got around to archiving that giant wall of text. Thank you; I was planning on doing it myself but obviously gave it up.

I would like to post a friendly reminder re-stating some basic rules for discussion here. Please keep in mind that:

  • This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the GunZ: The Duel article; It seems that some people are incapable of reading the box at the top of the page. This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject. This INCLUDES discussion of non-encyclopedic content such as tutorials on how to perform certain techniques. Esper rant 05:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Extra moves added

Many new moves has been achieved now. In the article section of Korean Style and Gameplay it listed a few styles which where butterfly, half - step, slash-shot, flash-step and also the flash step. Highly advanced gaming now has double-butterfly, triple butter-fly which has a complete stop motion of any form of defensive or offensive action and the double half step. Another move for fast climbing walls is Wall Cancel/Wall Slash which consists of jumping dashing then slashing with a sword. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NanoSpart (talk • contribs) 09:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gunz Engine

It has been speculated that the gunz engine is a heavily modified Quake 3 engine, but there is no legitimate proof of such claims outside of looking at the decompiled executable. Is it worth assuming without verification? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.219.48 (talk) 17:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anti E-style Article

The article incorrectly claims that e-style is evasive or that e-stylers avoid confrontation and prolong the match. It also refers to Rifles and Machine Guns as "Spray" which is a reference to a type of shooting rather than a type of weapon.

Successful E-stylers rely on immaculate aim and the higher damage per second of automatic guns relative to melee weapon and burst weapon use. E-style has nothing to do with avoiding confrontation or prolonging the match; on the contrary E-stylers often drop opponents within seconds of line of sight being achieved. K-Style on the other hand relies on excessive maneuvering in place of shooting thus if anything K-Style is less aggressive than E-style. The only possible explanation for such a claim regarding E-style is that it does not involve melee weapon use, such that if a melee user or k-styler attempts to rush an e-styler the e-styler may backpedal/backtumble while maintaining line of sight and shooting.

The desire to categorize this as "avoiding confrontation" is obviously a result of K-styler's typical choice of short range weapons.

"Spray" refers to "Spray and Pray" a term coined in traditional FPS games in which there was no "K-style". It involves a player with poor aim holding down the button and waving the reticle all over the place. It was never meant as a justification for punishing another player, rather it was a way of identifying a less experienced and effective player. If a player kills you within seconds of you being spotted, that means he is effectively aiming as opposed to "Spraying and Praying".

Some K-stylers in Gunz have attempted to use the term to identify the use of any automatic weapons. This is really quite absurd considering that a shotgun randomly distributes pellets across a cone of fire and thus requires the least accurate aim of any weapon and yet is the most popular K-Style weapon.

In summary the ideas that e-style is evasive and that e-stylers use "spray" will be stricken from the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.252.158.32 (talk) 21:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removing the cleanup tag

The article seems to be "cleaner" now than it was before, and is written in an encyclopedic tone, so I removed the cleanup tag. If anyone thinks it should stay, please explain why here. --Antoshi~! T | C 18:59, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GunZ Revolution Added

GunZ Revolution, the new fansite for gunz has been added. Anybody removing the link will be banned. Gunz Factor is not supported by Ijji anymore - gunz revolution is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.157.254.128 (talk) 15:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

As you can see through my revert, and the comment on your talk page, users will not be banned for removing non-notable links. If you insist that ijji "supports" GunZ Revolution (a site which is closed right now), source your statements. Otherwise, Wikipedia is not an advertising service. Wikipedia is not a Soapbox. --Antoshi~! T | C 22:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
We DON'T need fansite links on an encyclopedic articles. GunZFactor is there because it's what the IGunZ admin use to release updates. For ijji, they have their website to release updates, and so we don't need a confirmed fansite to be mentioned. --MrJacky (talk) 18:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ijji's response?

um... was the easy button thing really ijji's response, if so can it be verified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cockon (talk • contribs) 15:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] D-Style and E-Style added back

I have added D-Style and E-Style back.

After the cleanup I have done in April, there were redundant information added to those two, resulting in a removal.

Also, do NOT add styles like "Hybrid Style" and "Monk Style". These new styles created by the community do NOT fit here. What we need is general information for the average user of the terms that were already there for a few years. D-Style and E-Style were already around even before ijji GunZ was released, and is already accepted by the GunZ community. Styles like "Hybrid Style" and "Monk Style" are NOT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrJacky (talk • contribs) 18:31, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

E-Style and D-Style are accepted by the GunZ community, but unless you can find a website as a source that verifies its notability (forums do not count), it shouldn't be added to the article. --Antoshi~! T | C 09:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)