Talk:Guitar synthesizer

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Usually, a cable connects the hexaphonic pickup to the converter. This allows the guitarist some freedom of movement, unencumbered by the converter. However, several Casio models in the PG and MG product lines integrated the guitar, the hex pickup, and the converter into one unit. Casio is the only known manufacturer to try this. It was convenient in that a MIDI cable could be plugged directly into the guitar. Godin has taken a similar approach, selling guitars with 13-pin synth acces.

I think that Roland are producing the sma.e can anybody confirm or deny? Lochok 13:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

That is not the same thing as what Casio once offered. The 13-pin interface allows you to connect to the converter. The Casio guitars had the converter built in. --Trweiss 13:11, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two Minor Problems

It is difficult to say whether a guitar/synthesizer is an instrument in its own right. The Roland paradigm is actually two instruments, one controlling the other. Guitar-like MIDI controllers are not instruments at all; just an interface to the instrument. Nevertheless, guitar/synthesis has its own techniques, advantages and limitations which are distinct from both guitar playing and conventional keyboard synthesizers.

This is a bit of a philosophical issue, but not a very difficult one to answer I don't think. A midi controller is a part of an instrument, just as much as the keyboard on a piano (taken without the strings, hammers, and sounding board) is part of a piano. Pretty usleass by itself, but a part of the piano nonetheless. Taken with a synhtesizer, the controller, whatever that controller might be, is part an instrument. But this is all OR, as is whats in the article now, and its difficult to determine whether either contention is appropriate according to No OR policy. Strictly speaking its not, and the view should be attributed to a published source, but its difficult to find sources on issues like this, and might just be better left out of the article.

opening a low-pass filter in real-time is an expressive technique which is often possible on a synthesizer but is not possible on a guitar. (Guitarists need a wah-wah pedal to produce a similar effect.)

Putting a low-pass filter on a guitar, and controlling it with a pedal, is not only possible, but not exactly uncommon. A wah-wah pedal is only one type of filter that happens to be very popular. But, given an alternate music history, low-pass filters could have been just as common. But pedal controlled low pass filters, or ANY other kind of filter, are available for guitars (they just happen not to be as popular, but still not in any sense uncommon). As a matter of fact, any effect that is applied after the synthesis on a synthesizer (most effect barring midi effects, and real time oscillator harmonic control--) can be applied, and controlled in real time, to a guitar by simply sending the guitar to the same effect (even DSP effects, as most guitar effects are these days anyways) So I'm moving this bit out.Brentt 20:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page move

Sorry, accidentally left out comment with the move operation. The page name should not contain a forward slash as this indicates a subpage (namely "synthesizer") of the "Guitar" page, which is clearly not the intention with this page. The previous pagename "Guitar/synthesizer" will redirect to this one so previous wikilinks in other article will still work. Please see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions) for futher information. --Deon Steyn 08:21, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Beginnings

On the historical section, the article is missing the following guitar synths, which were the firsts, along with the Roland GR500: The ARP Avatar, the "360 Systems Polyphonic Guitar Synthesizer" (used by Lee Ritenour in Captain Fingers), the "360 Systems Slavedriver" (Used by John McLaughlin AFAIK), the swedish Hagstrom's "Patch 2000", and the Electro Harmonix Rackmount Guitar Synthesizer (Used by Steve Howe in ASIA). All these are pre-1980 and analog, and were used by notable musicians.

The technical section can be expanded more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.41.23.23 (talk) 20:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)