Talk:Guiomar Novaes

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[edit] Name

  • Why the "Novais" spelling? I can't find any contemporaneous source that says she spelled her name any way other than "Novaes".
  • This rather suggests her true date of birth was 28 February 1895, not 1896. I've altered the article. -- JackofOz (talk) 03:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Jack, I quite agree with you, and discussed at length this matter with Dantadd (the editor who changed the spelling; you may follow the discussion on his talk page, if you want), but it was to no avail. Dantadd claims that the current spelling rules of the Portuguese language should apply. I disagreed and explained my reasons in detail, but he remained adamant. So, in order to avoid an edit war, I decided to let it be. At least I got him to include the "archaic spelling Novaes" in the article. Best regards, MUSIKVEREIN (talk) 13:12, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


Page has now been moved as agreed. -- JackofOz (talk) 15:17, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Octavio Pinto

Jack, I looked in the New Grove as promised and found nothing on Novaes' husband, composer Octavio Pinto. I have access to a 2nd Edition of the New Grove if I get to Pasadena sometime this week; hopefully, something will be there. Otherwise, since you have some of his compositions, maybe you might have more ready access to biogrqaphical information that I do. Jonyungk (talk) 22:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Jack and Jonyungk, here is some information on Octavio Pinto I found in the All Music Guide:

Octavio Pinto

Born November 03, 1890 in São Paulo, Brazil Died October 31, 1950 in São Paulo, Brazil Country: Brazil Biography Brazilian composer Octavio Pinto is perhaps better remembered as the husband, from 1922 on, of the brilliant and famous Brazilian pianist Guiomar Novaes. Pinto was in fact not a musician by trade, but actually an architect with a thriving business throughout Brazil. He did manage, however, to get some piano lessons from the well-known Hungarian pianist Isidore Philipp (teacher also of Pinto's wife when she was at the Paris Conservatoire) as a young man, and he issued a relatively steady stream of music -- character and show pieces for solo piano -- until he died in 1950. Pinto's most often-played piece of music is one written for and made famous by his wife: Childhood Memories (Scenas infantis, from 1932). Well-known in South American musical circles even before marrying one of that continent's greatest virtuosi, Pinto was a close friend of Heitor Villa-Lobos. The oft-made claim, however, that Villa-Lobos composed his piano work Próle de bébé, Book 1 in honor of Pinto and Novaes' two children (daughter Anna Maria and son Luis Octavio) is a dubious and untidy one: Villa-Lobos composed Próle de bébé in 1918, several years before the two married and had children. ~ Blair Johnston, All Music Guide


If you think he merits an article, here's a start ! Best regards, MUSIKVEREIN (talk) 00:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)