Talk:Guinguette

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There is a basic misunderstanding in this article, inevitable when using a 1750 French dictionary. "Cabaret" in this sense has no connection with the modern English usage (i.e. an entertainement show, often with drink/food available) and has< i would imagine, been taken directly from the French originals without translation. The guingettes were always drinking places - albeit that many also provided entertainment - and their location is due entirely to the fact that alcohol was chearper outside the customs walls of Paris, and other cities. I have altered the article to reflect this, with a recent source. It would be good if the definitions from the French dictionaries could be re-translated from their originals to avoid using the word 'cabaret'. (Incidentally, the link to "Histoire et patrimoine des guinguettes et des bords de Marne" is dead and I have marked it as such.) Emeraude (talk) 14:09, 25 May 2008 (UTC)