Talk:Guinevere

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[edit] American/British English

I reverted the good faith spelling changes because I don't agree Guinevere or the Arthurian legend is specifically an "English" legend. The story is known in all Western countries and appeared in written form for many years in other languages before the first English versions. Because American English has been used in this article for so long, it should stay the way it is.--Cúchullain t/c 19:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Nice work, Arcturus!--Cúchullain t/c 21:55, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I think we should always go for neutral words to avoid reverts - where possible. I did struggle with armour/armor and I'm not 100% certain that chainmail fits. Maybe you could look at this? Arcturus 22:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm wondering if there should be any references to Guinevere's character as portrayed in Launfal, where it's stated that:

But Syr Launfal lykede her noght, Ne other knyghtes that wer hende; For the lady bar los of swych word That sche hadde lemmannys under her lord, So fele ther nas noon ende.

But Sir Launfal liked her naught Nor did other knights that were well-bred For the lady bore such reputation that she had so many lovers other than her lord That there was no end

See: Sir Launfal and also Launfal

--Bardicknight 20:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I added it in under the "Character" section.--Cúchullain t/c 21:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology

These etymological notes are pretty suspect. Siabraid might be an old Irish form, but it is certainly not proto-Celtic; And proto-Brythonic ought to have been something like *windosēbarā, -irā, if memory serves me well, Welsh -wy- generally coming from ē (as does Old Irish -ia-, IIRC).RandomCritic 14:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I've always thought they were suspect. Perhaps it's time to remove them.--Cúchullain t/c 17:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Um, yes, old as it is, McBain's Etymological Dictionary of the Gaelic Language explicitly lists the element -hwyfar in Gwenhwyfar = Guinevere as a cognate of "Irish siabhra, Early Irish siabrae, siabur, fairy, ghost" and I'm inclined to trust this source as rather learned at the least. It's enough to make me consider finally registering with this site, honestly. All the time I've been trying to keep these articles up to standard anonymously is starting to tax my nerves. Either way, I'm going to go edit the article now. --Goueznou, 69.248.140.84 03:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible that you don't understand the difference between "Early Irish" and "Proto-Celtic"? RandomCritic 13:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marvin Borrower's The Queen's Knight

I've googled for this book, searched Amazon, and searched my public library's website. The only mention of such a book by Marvin Borrower is this Wikipedia entry. --Arthaey 08:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I removed it. Thanks for catching that.--Cúchullain t/c 16:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)