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[edit] Language

I know Guinea so that there are a lot of languages. The most important was in Conakry the language "soussou". The old president S. Touré and his entourage did prefer of course his own language "malinké", a variante of the big language family "bambara".

--oui 20:39, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I just did some work on Susu language (aka Soussou) and some other aspects. There needs to be more work on the languages aspect, still... --A12n 18:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Guinea cames from a berber word meaning "mute" and not "black" acc. to Enc. of Islam II "Guinea" Ybgursey 00:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Culture : bad link

in section Culture :

"main article : Culture of Guinea"

is a redirect to Guinea. Should some of the culture have been lost? — MFH:Talk 01:10, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't think we've lost anything we used to have - Culture of Guinea has only ever been a redirect. It certainly shouldn't be, though. It just makes us look like we have an article that we should have but don't. I'll list it for deletion. Once I work out where to do that... --Cherry blossom tree 10:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guinea

Could you guys post more info on Guinea? I love your web site, but you shouldn't have 10 pages of Samus Aran (thanks for the info on that), and 4 on Guinea. Maybe you could put more culture on there, and sports.

Yeah, you're right, articles such as this one are under-represented on Wikipedia. People tend to write on what they know and are interested in and most of the people who edit Wikipedia are more interested in Samus Aran than Guinea. See WP:CSB for more on this. There is more information on Guinea in the various sub-pages, if you hadn't seen them. History of Guinea, Geography of Guinea, Economy of Guinea and so on.--Cherry blossom tree 22:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I am doing a huge report on Guinea- yet I dont have any information on it. I am leaving on a trip to help with the Katrina mess, tomorrow (3/16), and I am not allowed to bring homework on it. Please- I really need to get this done wow. i'm doing a project of Guinea too. amazing!

Could I echo this request for expansion, after reviewing for Version 0.5? Guinea seems very sparse compared to some other countries such as Eritrea. Thanks, Walkerma 05:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guinea Etymology

What is the source for the conjecture that the word originates in a Berber language? OED says origin unkown...

From the Hearsaypedia: Two of the possible origins are: (1) Jenne (Djenné), which European Explorers heard along the coast as the origin of gold they encountered; (2) an incident where European explorers landed and encountered women doing the wash or something, and when they asked what is this place, the women, not understanding (you know, the proverbial language barrier), responded that they were only women (or one of them said I am just a woman) - go speak to the men. The phrase the woman/women used was heard as simething like Guinea. Take your pick, though I usually heard a version of the latter when in Guinea. If true that exhasperated wonan's response led to the naming of a lot of countries and geography worldwide.--A12n 18:15, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History

There's a photo of a "Monument to commemorate the 1970 military victory over the Portuguese invasion". Since I don't really know about Guinean history, I wanted only to ask if this picture belongs actually to this article or not because, did the Portuguese invade this Guinea, or Portuguese Guinea, Guinea-Bissau? Guinea was before French Guinea. Where is that monument?

The moment is in Conakry. Guinea-Conkary actively supported the national liberation struggle of Guinea-Bissau. In an attempt to quell the support to the Guinea-Bissau rebels the Portuguese invaded Guinea, but were speedily rebuffed. --Soman 11:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
[Edit conflict] It was undertaken (for the reasons stated above) by about 400 Portuguese troops, mostly consisting of Guinean exiles. El_C 11:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misleading sentence in intro

The introduction says:

"It encompasses the water source of the Niger, Senegal, and Gambia rivers."

This sentence is ambiguous or misleading. Why is it a "water source" as opposed to "source"? Do these three rivers have the same source? If not, then the sentence should be

"It includes the sources of the Niger, Senegal and Gambia rivers."

Unfortunately, I do not know geography enough to fix this. -Pgan002 07:59, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not so sure that's even an accurate statement. The Niger river goes all the way up into Mali, which is to the north of the east-most points of Guinea. Perhaps they only meant to say that all 3 rivers occur in the country?

Trying to describe a place in such fashion is extremely unwieldy. I'd almost rather pen a map and give it to public domain... In fact, I'll probably do exactly that. Give me a day or so. --JT 08:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I have done some cleaning of the article, but it did not need much. Only the introduction was quite clumsy. Is there anything more that needs to be cleaned up? This is separate from the need to add to some sections. -Pgan002 08:26, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Current Event

There are riots going on in Guinea and this article lacks sufficient writing on it. Perhaps they deserve their own article?--Thomas.macmillan 21:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Correction request to 'In the News' blurb pointing to this article. The blurb states that 59 people have been killed in

"violent clashes between police and demonstrators" however, it is clear from any cursory reading of the news that human rights advocates have been saying 60 people were killed by security forces during the strike, and a figure of 59 dead (more than half of them shot in one incident) has been confirmed by the Minister of Health, as reported in this Reuters article. Therefore, the blurb on this subject is reprehensibly inaccurate and should be changed. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IRIN/abd23075b5b6851f62247e3db4d1416a.htm

[edit] Politics

I find the following wording a bit problematic "under Ahmed Sékou Touré the country went into political and economic isolation as a consequence of the withdrawl of french assistance, this lasted untill economic nessecity called for an opening of the economy in 1978". Guinea was not politically isolated from 1958 onwards. On the contrary the country was a leading political force in African politics in the late 1950s/early 1960s, and played a crucial role in the founding of the OAU. Relations with the West declined, but were substituted with political and economical relations with the Socialist Bloc and the 3rd world. The 'isolation' did occur at a later stage, after break also with the Soviet Union. Also, the term 'necessity' is highly simplistic to describe the situation of the country in the late 1970s. --Soman 12:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Coat of arms

Please, someone replace the 1984 coat of arms with the new one. The new coa doesn't include the arms, symbolizing peace.--85.74.76.51 16:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

The image shows a memorial for victory over Portugal in 1970's when they invaded. And where is this in the History section? Usually, if they build a memorial, its because they're proud of it. So I recommend that someone add this in.Tourskin 23:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh I see someone else has raised the issue.Tourskin 23:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

Ideally the demographics section of this article would have a breakdown of Guinean's religious adherence (what proportion are Christians, Muslims, other faiths) and (if relevant) whatever ethnic or geographic variances there are in religion (one region or one ethnic group being one religion, another group another). -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 02:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

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guinea is like the awesomest country in freakin world yo !!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.146.1.29 (talk) 15:45, 23 January 2008 (UTC)