Talk:Guido of Arezzo
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[edit] Newly discovered influences on Guido's work
I've removed the following passage from the article because it appears to be original research. It makes its own argument rather than citing a particular author that would make the argument itself, and given that the evidence being presented is very indirect (and poorly cited, as well), the argument just isn't strong enough to hold up here without proper attribution to an author. - Rainwarrior 13:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- There are some revealing events which suggest that Guido was influenced by Muslim work, especially in the use of syllables for the musical scale. Soriano revealed that Guido had studied in Catalogna, a region neighbouring Andalusia renowned for teaching music in its colleges as early as the 9th cenury. Ibn Farnes (d. 888), for example, was the first to introduce it as an integral part of the department of the quadrivium. The famous musician Zariyab (789-857) was also renowned for his teaching of music in Spain as well as for the foundation of the first conservatory in the world. Evidence shows at least one scholar who, acquiring a vast knowledge of musical art from the Muslims, taught in European circles. Gerbert of Aurillac (later Pope Sylvester II) (d. 1003), known for playing a very important part in the renewal of scientific thought in Europe, was also influential in disseminating Muslim musical knowledge, including their musical theory. He studied in Andalusia and was nicknamed the Musician. Gerbert also taught the quadrivium which consisted of the four subjects in the upper division of the seven liberal arts: arithmetic, astronomy, geometry, and music. Gerbert taught Arabic numerals; evidence of this is found in "Cita et vera divisio monochordi in diatonico genere", a work of Bernelius (c. 990), his former pupil, which contained the Arabic numerals. This teaching was soon spread abroad by Gerbert's pupils Bernelius, Adalboldus (d. 1027) and Fulbertus (d. 1028). These numerals are also found in Pseudo-Odo of Cluny (d. 942) in a tract entitled "Regulae Domni Oddonis super abacum". Odo of Cluny, in discussing the eight tones, referred to Arabic and Jewish names including buq, re, schembs and so on . Meanwhile, Fulbertus is known to have taught in Chartres, and therefore musical knowledge must have taken similar courses. (see Soriano Fuertes Hitoire de la musica Espanola', vol. 1, p. 152)
- Hunke established that these Arabic syllables were found in an eleventh century Latin treatise produced in Monte Cassino, a place which had been occupied by the Muslims a number of times, and was the retiring place of Constantine the African, the great Tunisian scholar who migrated from Tunis to Salerno and then to Monte Cassino. It is very unlikely that Guido, the monk, would have missed this treaty. (see Hunke, S. (1969), 'Shams al-'Arab Tasta'a 'ala Al-Gharb', 2nd edition, Commercial Office publishing, Beirut, p. 182)
[edit] MP3 of "electronic version"
I removed this link from the reference section:
At best it is an external link, not a reference, but I don't think it's relevant to this article. It's just a neat little piece of music inspired by a piece of music mentioned in the article. Furthermore, the external linking policy advises against links directly to rich media, and in this case I take issue with how poorly the link is described (I didn't know it was an mp3, and when I found that out I incorrectly assumed it would be a recording of some relevant reference text). There is no information as to the authorship or copyright of this material. - Rainwarrior 13:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
