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[edit] RfAs

[edit] My RfA (Hedley)

Thanks for your comments and neutral vote. My edits are infact quite a bit higher than 1,500 now, and are nearly at 2,000 - I just thought i'd note it incase you wanted to reconsider your vote. Hedley 01:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Does that mean you'll change to a support vote? Just wondering incase you want me to move your signature :p Hedley 02:28, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • You may also be interested in the allegations of lying that are on the RfA now. Dmn / Դմն 19:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hey James, thanks for your vote in support of my admin nomination. Paul August ☎ 14:06, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding "A Question..."

referring to User_talk:Ceyockey#A_question...

I appreciate the compliment. I think, though, that I prefer to work with folks with Admin roles rather than be one myself for the time being. I also think that I'd feel less comfortable sitting back for a week or a month if I need to draw myself away from Wikipedia for other matters. Courtland 02:51, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA: Thanks

Thank you for your support on my RFA. Now that I have been promoted, I promise to be as hardworking and fair with the admin tools as I have been with the other areas here on Wikipedia. See you around and happy editing. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:55, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA (Fawcett5)

Grutness, Thanks for your vote of support on my recent RFA, it was much appreciated! Regards, Fawcett5 19:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your support

Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_>|< 07:57, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Grutness, this is a bit overdue, but thank you for your support vote on my RFA. I have some time to thank everyone properly now, and you're part of the group that nodded a support vote to me. I have been using my new powers to better Wikipedia, and I thank you for giving me that ability. Thank you! Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 23:00, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My Rfa (Kbdank71)

Thank you for supporting me! --Kbdank71 13:37, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

Hey there, man. I can't say that I have never considered it... I do believe that I am a fairly balanced editor and that I have reached a point where I know the Wikipedia and its system well enough, but still, I am not as popular as most people on RfA, despite my sizable sizable number of edits. I am, however, willing to see how things will turn out. If you feel comfortable with the idea, then yes, I am very glad with the prospect of you nominating me. Best regards. --Sn0wflake 00:08, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You added Snowflakes' nom within JoJan's. I have moved it to the proper place. Guettarda 01:02, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

D'oh! Thanks.
Don't speak too soon - I still have ~40 hours to go on the voote - just 7 oppose votes could sink me :) Guettarda 01:12, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks! (Grm_wnr)

Thanks for supporting me on my RfA. It's always nice to get some positive feedback. I hope I can put my new abilities to some good use. -- grm_wnr Esc 17:32, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA (Guettarda)

Thank you for supporting my RFA. Guettarda 23:37, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yep - I know I should really write more articles and fewer stubs. I am slowly working to fill the hundred or so stubs I have created, but filling the geo-stubs are harder than people stubs. At least I haven't (yet) turned the red links at list of cities in Trinidad and Tobago (which is misnamed) into articles. :) Guettarda 00:21, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA (Willmcw)

Thank you for your vote to "keep" me. I just hope there's not a consensus to "delete," I'm having too much fun. Cheers, -Willmcw 04:43, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

I also know that you really wanted me to be an admin. I do not think I could be one now. However, to answer some of the basic questions:

1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.) Z:Images for deletion. While many people focus on pages and vandalism, many people neglect photos. And with various images policies created by Jimbo, this process would be have to be used alot. Those guys really need a few more hands there.


2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why? Hero of Belarus. Z:It's my baby article. I created it, made it from a stub to Featured. I am on a process now to make a second article featured: Order of Canada. Though I did not create the article, I pretty much took it over and I am calling it one of my own. I also made the Medal of Honor article being prevented from having its FA status removed.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future? Z:I been in the MoS styles debate, been criticised for my postings at WP:IFD, been part of a few nasty fight with sockpuppets, involved in a few RFC's and one RFAr, but none were filed against me. But I promise that if I do become an admin, all of that will be done, unless there is no way out of it or my admin powers needed to be used. Plus, I tried to admin a few places before and I just did a bad job for just doing the said job. This response is the reason I do not want any type of adminship. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 05:33, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RfA (Grue)

Thank you for your support!  Grue  07:06, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks! (Bratsche)

Thank you very much for your vote of confidence on my RfA. I'll keep trying to avoid those sour notes! Thanks, Bratschetalk 5 pillars 15:57, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Much belated thanks. (FreplySpang)

Thank you for supporting my RFA at the end of last month! Unfortunately, a family situation arose just then, and I haven't been able to spend much time on "good wikiwork." Things are getting back to normal, and I hope to wield the mop more actively. Thanks again! FreplySpang (talk) 23:07, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Alkivar

Oops, I guess I had kinda bad timing on the Alkivar RFA.. -Nathan256 24.54.208.177 30 June 2005 04:23 (UTC)

No problem, as long as one of us nominated him! :) Grutness...wha? 30 June 2005 05:41 (UTC)

[edit] Stubs

[edit] Regarding stub template

Hi there, I've added some response to my talk page --Oblivious 09:07, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Is {{Mv-stub}} being kept without deleted? I see instructions on category page, encouraging it to be used --Oblivious 13:51, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
I was hoping you'd be in contact to ast that sort of question, since you created it. It probably should go - it's never likely to be used much, and the Maldives notice board (assuming you managed to get it running OK) is probably a better way of handling the stubs. Also, we try to avoid using just the ISO abbreviations, since they could stand for lots of other things (It could be motor vehicle stubs, for instance). It hasn't gone over to the stubs for deletion page yet simply because there are so many other stubs that ned to be looked at there. Grutness...wha? 04:23, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
You wrote : it's never likely to be used much (it only has 10 stubs at the moment)
No... not really. The reason it has 10 at the moment is, I've stopped using it since it was likely to be removed. I am pretty much sure it will be used very much (at least by me). For e.g. if you take a look at this category 23 articles are there... all of them are stubs (at the moment). I intend to write many more, which ofcourse will start as stubs. Since its quite difficult to get hold of reference materials, down here from Maldives, its better to start as stubs and then later expand it. However if this really needs to be removed due to naming conventions and etc, it should be removed. Lemme know :) --Oblivious 15:46, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] China-bio-stub

You are right Grutness. Most people in this category are likely to be figures prior to 1949. For modern people the socio-political problem would be some Taiwanese people won't consider themselves Chinese people, though they may not deny their Chinese ancestry. For Hong Kong and Macao there is no such problem, but for Hong Kong the category contains quite a lot of non-Chinese ethnic people, and would make it difficult to be simply placed as a subcategory. — Instantnood 12:50, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

Hopefully the Taiwanese identity won't be, and it'd be better to ask Mababa and other folks at Taiwanese notice board for their advice. Would be nice to add a link to the Hong Kong people stubs category at the Chinese category, and the other way round as well. — Instantnood 13:03, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
Interesting~ Lol. — Instantnood 14:08, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] geo stubs

Thanks for that link. How exactly did you get that listing? Not by manually checking each link I hope... --Spangineer (háblame) 00:38, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid so... just call me obsessive. Actually a lot of them were obvious (especially those with state names). The annoying ones were the counterintuitive ones like Dakota Hogback (Colorado, IIRC), and Northwest Region (Pennsylvania). Grutness...wha? 01:20, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TL:Stub

Hi there! KBdank wanted to edit the template (since cat:stub was renamed to cat:stubs), so I've unprotected it for now. Would you think it still needs protecting? If so please do so, but it's not as widely used as it once was. Radiant_>|< 15:07, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

It'll probably be fine now - it was just because of minor fiddling while it was heavily used, which could have upset the servers. To be honest, I'd forgotten it was still protected. Grutness...wha?

[edit] Template what?

I assume you were talking about Template:ethno-stub. I had simply forked it to separate ethnic groups and general ethnology stubs. Whats the heck's wrong with that? -SV|t 04:41, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That might have been what you were trying to do, but what you actually did was move some items into ethnic-stub, then delete the original template. As to what's wrong with that, well firstly there was no discussion about making a new template and stub category, and secondly, the deleted template was on over 200 articles, so they all suddenly sprouted redlinks. Grutness...wha? 07:50, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Would you do anything differently?

Hey Grutness, I've got a question for you. Right now I'm proposing on the Spanish wikipedia that they change its stub sorting system to be similar to the one we have here. I'd like to know if you'd do anything differently if you could – is there stuff about the current system that you don't like or whatever that I should try to avoid if/when the changeover occurs in the spanish wikipedia? I'm planning to start a stubs wikiproject to keep everything organized, like we have here, but let me know if you can think of anything that I should watch out for. Also, if you don't mind, I'll probably be asking you for advice about all this over the coming weeks. Thanks in advance for your help! --Spangineer (háblame) 15:56, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Ooo. Good question. I think the two big bugbears are consistency of naming and the proliferation of "unauthorised" templates. So I'd have liked it if there were some rules in place for keeping the naming of stub templates and categories consistent - the stub category names should be consistent with the names of the categories they feed into, too. And I'd make sure there were big notices everywhere telling people not to make new templates without going through a discussion process at WP:WSS first! Grutness...wha? 01:31, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
When you say consistency of naming, could you give me an example of something that's not consistent? For example, do you think it's consistent having a Us-geo-stub in the US Geography category? Also, could you point me to any discussion that took place over what type of stub sorting system to use (the Spanish folks currently use something like {{stub about|sports}} or {{stub about|soccer players}}, which in my opinion isn't too nice for customizing text and stuff, though it does avoid the proliferation of templates). I'd like to know if you guys went through all of that discussion when you started. Thanks. --Spangineer (háblame) 10:47, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
I may be in the minority, but I don't like Us-geo-stub or Uk-geo-stub, since I feel that they should be capitalised like the proper nouns they represent (they redirect to them: US-geo-stub and UK-geo-stub). But more importantly it's things like {{cricket stub}}, {{SoapChar}}, {{Mathbiostub}}, which don't fit in with the standard "xx-stub" format, ambiguous names like {{bio-stub}} (biography or biology?), and things which change format (We have {{UK-hist-stub}}, {{US-hist-stub}}, and {{Russian-history-stub}}, for instance). There are quite a lot like this listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Naming guidelines.
As to the second question, no... we largely made it up as we went along, I think. But have a look through the pages of WP:WSS - there may well be something there that is of use (including the naming guideline page I just named). Grutness...wha?

[edit] Thanks for the {{US-geo-stub}} guidance

Thanks for the guidance during the split of {{US-geo-stub}}. -- Fingers-of-Pyrex 20:38, 2005 Jun 16 (UTC)

:) no problem. Hope it was useful! Remember it's just suggestions, though, based on doing this sort of thingg before. I don't think there are any set rules for this sort of thing! Grutness...wha?

[edit] Philippines-geo-stub

Sure thing. A question though... Eventually I want all those articles to look like this: Amlan, Negros Oriental, complete with list of barangays (local city/town divisions) and a locator map. Would you still consider that article a stub? TheCoffee 04:42, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

That's less stubby, but it still looks like a stub. It needs a bit more text than the vital statistics and a list of barayas: perhaps a couple of sentences about the history of the place, what the name means, main industry, whether the population's all near the coast, any important features... that sort of thing. It doesn't need to be very long - have a look at the description of Lakewood, Zamboanga del Sur for an example of something that is beyond the stub stage. San Isidro, Davao Oriental is better still, but you wouldn't need as much as that unless you really felt keen on writing! Grutness...wha?

[edit] Struct-stub

Thanks for your help fixing struct-stub to asia-struct-stub. I did not know about its subcategories.. and geo-stub is not for buildings. :-D — Instantnood 14:47, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] About Category:Stub

Yes sir. MessedRocker 14:07, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

I only want it back as a redirect, because it used to be Category:Stub. I just don't want people like me to get confused and think there's only two articles in the category while there are actualy a couple dozen. MessedRocker 14:23, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)
There aren't any in the category - which is one of the reasons why it was deleted. The two you see there are "ghost" articles - they have bad names and can't be removed from the category. As I said, though, every wiki page that used to talk about category:stub now points people to category stubs, so I really don't see why you'd want it back. Grutness...wha?
I see. I abstain. MessedRocker 14:43, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Anglican-stub

Hi Doops - um, did you read what I wrote on WP:WSS/C? Exactly. If no-one's objected in a week after the proposal, go ahead and make it (or you can wait for one of us to make it if you prefer).... Since its made, I've added the necessary category, but in future it would be nice if you could wait! Grutness...wha? 00:32, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC) (copied from Doops' talk page)

Um, yeah; but when you wrote that message to me, I don't think you'd read my comment (the one you were responding to) carefully enough. I'd asked: OK, I've made an example stub — what do I do now? Wait a few days and then move forward if no objections? Doops 07:51, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
In other words, I'd already made an example stub notice to show the image and text I proposed using; I thought that I had to wait a few days before creating the category, using the stub, or adding it to the list of standard stubs — but I didn't realize that I had to wait before creating the stub notice itself. So when you were writing your reply (saying to wait before creating the stub notice) you didn't notice that it was in fact already created and sitting right there below your very nose! Anyway, though, sorry for jumping the gun. :) Doops 02:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: new stub types

I don't think it's necessary to wait so long for such straightforward issues. I've shaved off at least a hundred people stubs in the last few weeks, as well as numerous other stubs and other things in the past, and I consider one or two okays a clear enough indicator that there isn't notable opposition. I don't think that be bold is a bad policy and I'm utilizing it for the public benefit (compared to the amount of bold vandalism that happens every day, this is peanuts :/).

If some awful, unforseen consequence comes to light, I can always correct it later. I think I have proven so far that I have the will power to do any large number of edits in order to fix an issue. :) And any mistake that might need correcting will still pale in comparison to the fifteen thousand people stubs that remain to be sorted.

All in all, I think we need to revisit some of the rules given how many new stubs get created without any discussion, and how many are missing despite the fact they are actually needed. Do you happen to have access to the SQL database? It would be easier to produce reports with the ability to query the running database, and maintain order by having up to date information. --Joy [shallot] 13:56, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Czechia geography stubs

Ive unprotected the page, since you said on a talk that it seems like its calmed down. Should you perhaps contact the other two or no?-SV|t 07:24, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Um... "the other two"? It's calmed down as far as the template's concerned, since a compromise name was found for that. Not sure whether it will have for the category - and since changes in template-driven category names can result in huge amounts of work (null-edits are required to shift all of the articles), I'd probably have been happier to have kept it there. But we'll see how it goes. Grutness...wha?

[edit] Browser problems

[edit] Your edits to the article: Serbian Cyrillic

Might I ask what is the reason for you placing <caron> next to certain letters which are listed in the article: Serbian Cyrillic, and replacing the letter with the caron with the same letter without it? I noticed you done this to all the letters with a caron, besides the letter č. Why all that? 61.68.20.113 12:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

my edit was simply to change the stub template. Unfortunately, some eastern European characters are not browser-safe and automatically change to "Z<caron>" or similar when an article is edited. I usually check but forgot this time. I've gone back and changed the characters to browser-safe versions. Sorry about that. Grutness...wha?

[edit] Browsers

Glad to have been of service on the shortcut problem. As for your browser issues, I would recommend you take a look at Mozilla Firefox. Outside of pulling patches from Microsoft I never bother with IE. --Allen3 talk 13:39, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

Yeah - I've heard good things about that MF ;) Changing from a system I know - no matter how bad - is something I seem to have a lot of inertia about, but I think I will. Grutness...wha? 13:41, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Unsafe characters again

I recall that there was a problem with your browser and Icelandic characters some time ago; I don't know if you ever found a fix for that. I note that your most recent edit to the New Zealand page - a revert - broke the link. Is there anything you can do to avoid this happening again? -gadfium 01:59, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No, I never found the answer, other than converting it to the safe characters. I didn't notice that one, sorry. In thin this case, it would be Nýja Sjáland. The is: link must have been added since I previously edited the page. Grutness...wha? 02:07, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, I've changed the link.-gadfium 02:16, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Qeqertarsuatsiaq

You made more changes than you intended when editing Qeqertarsuatsiaq, which was on my watchlist from last time you edited it. You were thinking of switching to Firefox; I really think you need to remember that this issue is as much about character-unsafe browsers as it is about browser-unsafe characters, and that the switch to native Unicode in MediaWiki 1.5 will make things considerably worse. Susvolans (pigs can fly) 17:01, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Well, there are two things here... firstly I'm sure I'm not the only one using the browser I'm using, so if I breaks something so will others using the same browser. The second thing is that I am using Firefox now. Grutness...wha? 03:34, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Just out of interest, what operating system are you using? Susvolans (pigs can fly) 13:22, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Mac OS X, with Mozilla 1.7. I think I may have fixed the problem though - something was set weirdly in the preferences. Grutness...wha?


[edit] Thank You Girl Thanks, and a typo?

Thanks for the effort on this article. Another saved from VfD.

Is this Originally titled "Thany You, Little Girl" a typo? Thany? If I wasn't already here thanking you, I'd research it myself, but since I'm here, I thought I'd ask. --Unfocused 22:42, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oops - yup. It's been changed. Grutness...wha? 01:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nonsense sections

Yes, that's fine, I only noticed the discussion on the talk page after I changed it (it's late here, I should be in bed already). I will update the footy index, I promise, now that all the playoffs are done and dusted. (Actually, I was hoping somebody else would jump in there and do the hard work before I had to :) sjorford →•← 00:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sieges of Galway

hey there! I'm trying to get people interested in more areas of Irish history prior to 1798; would appreciate, at the very least, any comments you have on this page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiges_of_Galway Cheers! Fergananim

[edit] Mountfort

Not as impressed as me, I had no idea it was going to be there, I had a double take when I saw it this morning,think that's my lot for Kiwi architecture I've written all Iknow on the subject. Regards Giano | talk 14:44, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Actually Lawson looks quite interesting - may give it a go, it would be good to see NZ architecture on the fromt page 3x in a row, wouldnt it - any fotos about? Giano | talk 14:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I'll sort the day job this week (yawn) and have a look next. Giano | talk 05:55, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Lawson

Here [1] is the barest bones of a page, so don't get the camera out yet - but do make input if you like, I think it needs an indepth of only three buildings which distinguish his work in each style, any more and people go to sleep (probably will anyway) You live in the place what are his 3 best or most well known (obviously the Ist church), and worst would be good too (have to be objective). I can't find a picture of him either (so far) there must be on somewhere, they all have to be out of copyright. God! I hope I get to see NZ some day! Giano | talk 19:46, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) PS: Don't bother to Wiki the links it encourages the commar brigade in, a waste of their time!

Great news, the Forrester art gallery was one of the photos needed for that page, I didn't realise he was better known than Petre, especially as I was coming to the conclusion Petre was the better architect (I shall have to keep the POV out) I think the problem is going to be obtaining an image of him, I phoned the library for reference books, and they were a bit blank, but said they had one on Nigel Lawson was that any good? - sadly No! Giano | talk 08:30, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lawson

Hi, Good edits, (glad you can spell!) the problem I'm having now is not being able to get hold of any decent reference books over here. New Zealand architecture has been a bit overlooked here to say the least. Coincidence you know Donovan, I've heard there aren't many of you down there. I had a great kiwi friend at school (he broke my arm in a rugby match) you probably know him too - big ugly bloke has a farm and four children who have gone feral.

That's interesting about the Presbyterians not having cathedrals (I'll check that out) I thought it was just the 1st church to be designed. There seems to be some confusion on the internet as to whether he actually designed Larnach Castle, one site says it was designed "oversees", to my eyes it could only have originated in NZ or Oz and the majority seem to give it to him. Some more pictures would be great, Donovan's are good but it would be better in daylight - shame they hung crystal chandeliers from a gothic ceiling, but I don't suppose that's Lawson's fault. There must be bit more on the scandal at the asylum, I can dig out - and the house you mention - I've found a little on it, really need a classical one to balance Larnach. Found a good site so one should turn up. Regards.Giano | talk 07:55, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi James, that's brilliant, I left a notice on the NZ board this morning appealing for fotos, I've been quite busy lately so Lawson has gone a bit cold, some new fotos should be the inspiration I need to get back into gear with it. Thanks Giano | talk 28 June 2005 12:39 (UTC)


[edit] Mind Benders

Hello! I've noticed your interest in creating logos, barnstars, or your past artistic ability! Thus, I just wanted to let you know that the pre-round, an artistic competition, is now open at Wikipedia:Mind Benders (Shortcut: WP:MIND)! The competition is open to everyone and is seeking a logo/trophy, similar to Barnstars, to be placed on every winner's page. We urge you to help us out and submit an entry! Afterwards, the normal rounds, each consisting of ten or more fun, logical, brain-stimulating questions will open. Why don't you give it a try when it opens! Look forward to seeing your contribution. Thanks, Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:46, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] James Dignan

Eh, someone put two songs by James Dignan -you know- in this list ;-). Could you check for the right links etc? btw, I trust your information on the existence of these songs. In 1996 I bought different music. Bye, -DePiep 17:04, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I can assure you it wasn't me! I've removed one (it was an instrumental) and disambiguated the other's location, but I wonder whether it should be there at all - it was released on an album, but wasn't ecxactly a big-seller. Grutness...wha?
All OK. My background info was scarce, but I'm, eh, proud I found these jewels. btw, the criteria do accept instrumentals, a title can stand by itself. I'm just trying to be correct to the facts & author. And now: shouldn't there be an article about James Dignan ;-)? I'm sorry I cant help wiki here. Bye, -DePiep 28 June 2005 14:27 (UTC)
Heh. I have a "non-article" as a subpage of my user pages (at User:Grutness/Grutness non-article, which is as close as I feel comfortable with writing about myself in Wikipedia. Maybe someone will someday (This is not a hint! I don't think I'm notable enough yet! :) Grutness...wha?
So: two instrumentals are wiki-legally rv back into the list. Readable non-articles are fine. -DePiep 28 June 2005 14:51 (UTC)

[edit] Great Maps...

The location maps are a great bonus to the NZ towns. Something I've been sort of meaning to do, is to add the tables with population, territorial authority etc. to some more of the towns (e.g., Ashburton). Do you think that's a worthy activity? Or should I find something else to do? Limegreen 28 June 2005 09:26 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I made up a dozen or so while I couldn't edit yesterday (most of them still to be uploaded). I think adding the tables would be great if you feel like doing it. Another thing I've been meaning to get round to but haven't is expanding the article on Invercargill which is still a bit stubby. Grutness...wha? 28 June 2005 11:49 (UTC)


I'm getting a weird thing with some of the maps you are uploading recently. The seem to render in the middle of some pages if they are done as "thumb". This might be a brower issue (I am using firefox) or something. Compare the current version of Twizel with what you had previosuly. In the original version you image appears more or less directly under the "Northumberland, England" text with a big piece of whitespace to the right of it and the line under "history" going though the middle. See what you think. Maybe it's this bug - SimonLyall 30 June 2005 12:08 (UTC)

[edit] Tax Template

Hey James. I copied your template about the empty box for tax purposes and moved it to Template:User_empty_tax. I mainly did it to fit the Babel template. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 28 June 2005 18:23 (UTC)

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