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[edit] Singapore gay movement

Some of this appears to be copied from http://www.geocities.com/plusg1/history_01.htm. Please confirm in Talk:Singapore gay movement that you have permission from (or are) the author. If not, edit the page and insert {{delete}} at the top. Rich Farmbrough 18:56, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I intend to modify it some more when I have the time, Rich. Just bear with the copyright infringement for the time being. Cheers.

I very much appreciate the changes you've made to the article to comply with Wikipedia's NPOV policy, but my last concern is the style its being written in. Can you try to change it into a formal tone some time in the near future rather than it reading like a first-person/narrative? Although its written in third-person, some sections still read like a story when it should be a discursive. A good tip to use is to replace some sentences with the passive voice which otherwise sound a bit narrative, and instead of for example, "the organisers knew that [such and such] was taking place. So they did [another such and such]" which really sounds like a narrative, confront the issue in third person, a style that sounds that its assuming we have no personal knowledge of the issue at hand at all - just factual knowledge, which is really what we want. A passive voice works in some circumstances. -- Natalinasmpf 03:02, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Singapore gay history

Hello Groyn! I noticed you created the article Singapore gay history, but it doesn't have any content. Have you anything to add to it? If not, it should probably be deleted until it gets some. Thanks. --Whosyourjudas\talk 03:04, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image tag

Hi Groyn88! In Wikipedia, you are required to tag the images that are uploaded. Please refer to this article WP:ICT. Your uploaded images are currently tagged as "Possibly unfree images" since there are neither sources nor tags listed. Please tag them specifically, otherwise they will be deleted. Thank you. --*drew 15:19, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary

Hello. Please remember to always provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy edits. Alphax τεχ 16:17, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Homosexuality in Singapore vs. Category:Sexual minorities in Singapore

Hi Groyn...I wanted to discuss with you a bit about the category move you did this morning. Ordinarily, "sexual minorities" is considered problematic as a term for LGBT people (the T's reject it, for one thing), and hence not appropriate for use on Wikipedia. Is there a valid reason why the term should be treated differently in Singapore's case than it is otherwise? Bearcat 19:51, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Perhaps "Singapore LGBT culture" would be more acceptable, but the history articles wouldn't really fit. Anyway, my main intention in changing the title of the category was to encompass the "Transgender people in Singapore" article, which user:Alex R objected to including under "Homosexuality in Singapore". Can you suggest a better title that includes transgender people as well? I'd appreciate anyone's suggestions.Groyn88 14:38, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
    • I'd suggest "LGBT culture in Singapore", personally. And I don't think that's really a bad fit for history articles... Bearcat 01:34, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

I think that the lay Singaporean reader would not know what LGBT meant, so I would prefer the words 'gay' or 'homosexual' to be in the category title. Does anyone object to 'Singaporean homosexual and transgender culture'? If not, I shall make the change soon.Groyn88 10:14, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

  • LGBT issues can be awfully thorny when it comes to naming, I have to admit. But "homosexual and transgender" brings up two problems of its own. One is that "homosexual" isn't considered an appropriate label by either gay men or lesbians, let alone both of them grouped together, and the other is that it excludes bisexuals. Unfortunately, the only choices we really have for category names are either the abbreviation "LGBT" or spelling out the full words "Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender". Bearcat 02:35, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

I think I'll go for 'Singaporean gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender culture', even though it is quite a mouthful. If there are no objections, I'll make the change in a week or so.Groyn88 17:03, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

  • To simplify things, I'm going to rename it 'Singaporean gay and transgender culture'. After all, lesbians are considered gay too, and bisexuals are half-gay. So in a way, the title includes them as well, plus it has the advantage of not being too lengthy. If no one objects, I'll make the switch soon.Groyn88 06:20, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Actually, no, both lesbians and bisexuals are quite clear that the word "gay" is not an umbrella term that includes them. You have to specify gay and lesbian and bisexual. Bearcat 05:49, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:BugisStreetMap.JPG

Image:BugisStreetMap.JPG looks like it's taken from the Mighty Minds street map, how do you assert GFDL rights for this? Jpatokal 05:16, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

  • I've changed it to 'fairuse'. Does that help? Can I continue to use it?Groyn88 10:11, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
    • FWIW, I don't think uploading a copyrighted map scan fits within "fair use". Bearcat 02:38, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

So what do I label it as to continue using it?Groyn88 17:01, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

  • It's a copyrighted image. I really don't think you can use it on here. Bearcat 23:08, 10 August 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Homosexuality in Singapore

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. --Cool Cat Talk 01:54, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Singapore gay films

You can't redirect to a page outside Wikipedia...besides, doing so is inappropriate. Please do not do so again. Ral315 WS 19:34, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] suggestions

Two suggestions: maintain an image gallery (as you take some nice photos), and the R21 distinction seems to only apply across some jurisdictions, so I would think "may be prohibited/offensive" would be better word on your talk page. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (Be eudaimonic!) 05:23, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I've created a gallery for you at User:Groyn88/gallery. You may move it, ask me to delete it, etc. if you don't want one. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (Be eudaimonic!) 05:35, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Merçi, Natalina. Je ne savais pas qu'il était possible à créer une galerie. Ça parait très belle. Groyn88 14:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Asking for Public domain

I am approaching you on the images which you uploaded on Bugis Street. Where did you get it from? At least one image--Image:BugisStreetTrans006.jpg is argumentably Public domain rather than fair use. Also, I would strongly encourage you to state where did you get all the images from. Claiming fairuse on images blatantly without providing information on its source would certainly lead to the downfall that these images might get deleted. This is a great pity, rather, for they are valuable historical photographs. If the images are from or found in the Singapore National Board Archives, it is likely that we can argue for public domain status. Cheers! Mr Tan 15:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

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Same with Image:PeterBogdanovich001.jpg. Thanks, JYolkowski // talk 21:07, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articles for deletion

Several articles to which you were the major contributor are up for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singapore public gay parties. Wuzzy 17:10, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

The following articles are up for deletion again. Wuzzy 18:33, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Wikipedia_talk:Censorship

A watered-down version of the proposed policy against censorship is now open for voting. Will you knidly review the policy and make your opinions known? Thank you very much. Loom91 10:24, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] hello Groyn88 theBlackbay here 

Help From fellow Wikipedians against censorship!

Thank you for your time I was wondering if i could ask your opinion?? :)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/G. Edward Griffin here is the Article on G. Edward Griffin that I have just reconstructed and am still in the process of doing, But it's been put up for deletion?.

I was wondering if you could pitch in a comment in any direction you feel but I believe this man is very notable having Authored such books as The Creature from Jekyll Island a history of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, but also many many more films as well, also being a member of many organisations.

Me being an inclusionist of sorts I would rather see changes made rather than a wholesale deletion, what do you think?

The man is very notable he has been doing this sort of work since the 60’s when he created the “The Capitalist Conspiracy” one of the first and most documented histories of Political Corruption in film that I know of.

Thank you for all your help, I’m just starting out in Wikipedia I have created the Benjamin H. Freedman, article and reconstructed the The Money Masters article and some others but I need help here! Any help of mine you may need or want in any regard in the future just ask :)

Also any contribution you would like to make to improve the article please consider!

Really i wouldn't ask if i did not really think this article worthy.

-Theblackbay 10:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] SGpedians Home Page

Hi Groyn88!

I saw you listed as "anti-gay" at the SGpedians home page, so I thought it was weird... Just wantd to let you know so can correct it. I am planning on moving to Singapore in January, but you make it sounf pretty tough!... Now I have second thoughts. Is it really that bad?--SidiLemine 15:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Hello SidiLemine,

Thanks for the info on the improper listing on the SGpedians home page. Regarding moving here, nah, it's not bad at all. You can do just about anything you want in private. But when you get here, please help our push for equality by cutting down on your spending in the straight economy and putting your pink dollars in the gay economy. Our government listens more when it's money talking. Cheers.Groyn88 (talk) 17:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Singapore gay films

An editor has nominated Singapore gay films, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

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[edit] YouTube and other links in "Section 377A of the Penal Code (Singapore)"

Hi, you recently updated "Section 377A of the Penal Code (Singapore)" with links to Parliamentary debates broadcast on Singapore TV that were uploaded on to YouTube. I think these videos were uploaded on to YouTube in breach of copyrights held by the Parliament of Singapore and MediaCorp, and as such it is against Wikipedia policy to link to such videos: see "Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking to copyrighted works" ("[I]f you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work"). I'd therefore suggest that you remove the links to YouTube and link, if possible, to news reports about the Parliamentary proceedings. If you would like to discuss this matter further, let's do so on the article's talk page. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 16:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

You've also just added a link to a scan of a Straits Times article at http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/SiGNeL001/Scanned%20articles/Singapore/STArticle071205a.jpg. I'm afraid this is a clear breach of copyright. You can mention the article in a footnote and link to a website authorized by Singapore Press Holdings that contains the article (if one exists), but you must not link to a website that is acting in disregard of copyright laws. Could you please take steps to remove the links to this website and to YouTube as soon as possible? Thanks. — Cheers, JackLee –talk– 16:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:BugisPeople001.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:BugisPeople001.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:ClarenceSingam002.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:ClarenceSingam002.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 21:31, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:BugisStreetMovie002.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:BugisStreetMovie002.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Project FMF (talk) 00:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:PaddyChewColour.JPG

Thanks for uploading Image:PaddyChewColour.JPG. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 14:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Rettetast (talk) 14:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:PaddyChewComingOut.JPG

I have tagged Image:PaddyChewComingOut.JPG as {{no rationale}}, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Some examples can be found at Wikipedia:Use rationale examples. Please also consider using {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Non-free. Thank you. Rettetast (talk) 14:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:AlexAu01.JPG

Thanks for uploading Image:AlexAu01.JPG. You've indicated that the image is being used under a claim of fair use, but you have not provided an adequate explanation for why it meets Wikipedia's requirements for such images. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check

  • That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's escription page for each article the image is used in.
  • That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --08:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:AlexAu01.JPG

Thanks for uploading Image:AlexAu01.JPG. You've indicated that the image meets Wikipedia's criteria for non-free content, but there is no explanation of why it meets those criteria. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. If you have any questions, please post them at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions.

Thank you for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 20:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)