Talk:Group B
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[edit] GTO?
Did the Ferrari GTO really run as a class B? Doesn't say that in the Ferrari_GTO article. Gzuckier 14:50, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
- The "288" GTO was not released as a Group B racer, but it was initially developed as one. --SFoskett 15:49, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
The 288 GTO Evo was race ready in 1986, but no races materialised for it to compete in... Incidentally, the Ferrari F40 was derived pretty much directly from the Evo... 84.92.80.169 13:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 9 minutes?
From paragraph on Group 4 and Group 2: "At one particular rally its combined time for all the stages was nine minutes quicker than that of the rally winner." <-- This needs some clarification. If the Audi was nine minutes quicker, then why wasn't it the winner? Or was it 9 minutes quicker than the previous year's winner? Was it in a different class?
[edit] Answer
Before Group B began, when Audi had just released the Quattro for Group 4, they entered it in a race as not a competetor, just to test how it would perform. Since it was the first four wheel drive car in rally, and wasn't exactly homologated for the series, they couldn't compete and wanted to test it. The end result of the race was that the Audi car finished 9 minutes faster then the car that took first place, and had Audi been competing officially, they would have won by a huge margin.
[edit] Weight
Do someone know how much was the weight on Group B rally cars, eg. Lancia S4 and Peugeot 205 ?
Group B Lancia S4 about 970 kg.
Minimal weight was definitely variable depending of engine capacity. Ericd 20:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Circuit Racing
Why there are no mention of circuit racers as the FIA used Gr B to replace the Gr 4 and it attracted a fair selection of Porsche 930s during the early 80'sWilliRennen 12.19 24 Feb 2006 (utc)
Group B and Group 4 were allowed to race on closed track. Until the WRC there was no distinct regulations for rally cars. Ericd 20:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Unrestricted ?
"By contrast, Group B had few restrictions on technology, design and the number of cars required for homologation to compete." Wrong a production of 200 was required. Ericd 20:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 1983 Season
The 1983 season section neglects to mention that Lancia won the Manufacturers title, which was considered much more important than the drivers title at the time. I've added an extra sentence to that effect and also mentioned the fact that Lancia did not contest the RAC Rally, even though Walter Rohrl might have won the driver Championship if they had done so. 84.92.80.169 13:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Renault 5 Turbo
The R5 Turbo was introduced as a Group 4. Many early Group B cars were Group 4 cars who shaw their homologation "extended" to Group B. Ericd 18:48, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
