Talk:Grip (sport fencing)
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I've suggested that three pages which cover various types of grips be merged here. The other pages each feature no more than a paragraph on the subject of the particular grip covered. None of thm provide an extensive or necessary amount of additional information with regard to what's provided here.
- I tend to agree. The three articles could easily be covered by one. Epeeist smudge 19:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Spanish Grip
I have removed the following portion, as there are no references, and my personal experiecnce has been just the opposite.
- (now illegal in FIE competition)
This is in reference to the Spanish grip, which I have never had trouble using at many large tournys (NAC, RYC, SRYC, NATS, etc...) If someone can find where this is specifically outlawed, please, for the love of god, tell me.--digital_me(Talk)(Contribs) 17:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
See USFA rules (translation of FIE) m.4, section 6. A Spanish grip violates this rule, since it has orthopaedic extensions, yet can be held in more than one position, like a French. (jsavit) 27 July 2006
- So does the Italian grip, yet its use is still allowed. I have used a Spanish offset at multiple high-level competitions, including the recent summer nats, and I was always allowed to fence with it. The officials can choose not to enforce rules, and I have never seen the rule you mention enforced in regard to the Spanish offset or the Italian.--digital_me(Talk•Contribs) 21:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Not so...the rule re legality of a grip is meaningless if you just apply the name...you have to look at the grip characteristics...ie. if it has prongs off the side AND a French pommel, it's illegal because you could post and still loop a finger around one of the projections, thus gaining more reach while NOT losing control. The most extreme example of this is the Gardere.
Lotsa luck doing that with an Italian. Besides, that rule is aimed at ortho grips...the Italian is NOT an ortho grip.
If a director let you fence with a grip with prongs AND and French pommel, he doesn't know or understand the rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.107.111 (talk) 23:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
