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[edit] Possible copyvio
Most of the last edit to this page[1] seems to be an almost identical copy from [2]. Does whoever added it have permission to use this text, if not it will be removed. G-Man 19:13, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- As nobody has responded to the above, the copied text has been removed G-Man 18:37, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Football
I have removed about half the football section as unsourced or POV, leaving the main facts. Further detail that may be appropriate to the Grimsby Town F.C. article can be included there but is not suitable for an article on the town. BlueValour 15:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] School?
Surely it isn't appropriate to have a section on a small school in the town? A) This is an encyclopaedia page about a town of 90 000 people with 1000 years of history, a section about a primary school with 170 pupils is irrelevant. B) It's written in an inappropriate style.
I'm not going to directly edit the page, but whoever has been doing a good job on this page should remove it in my opinion.
[edit] Edit?
i don't want to edit the page, but the birds eye factory didn't produce fish fingers for at least the last 5yrs of it's life, it produced frozen ready meals.
also, the word 'boke' is very old lincolnshire dialect and not specific to grimsby (boak) but i would have no idea where to reference it. the rest of the local slang is pretty weak imo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.148.96.104 (talk) 19:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC).
dialect section starts off impressive enough but then becomes pretty farcical ie the lines about "we was" etc...this is hardly peculiar to Grimsby but found in many other dialects...West Country etc. Similarly the missing off of "h" at the start of words...a pointless addition as the vast majority of English dialects tend to do this...and why say just "Northern " dialects as you're hardly going to hear a Cockney for instance pronounce an "H" and last time I looked that wasn't in the "North". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.33.205 (talk) 22:44, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ian Huntley / Maxine Carr
These two names should NOT be published on the article page. Wikipedia will not glorify murderers. GrimGary 14:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
It is not a question of 'glorifying' murderers, just a statement of fact. Both Ian Huntley (the murderer) and Maxine Carr came from Grimsby and nothing can change that. If we start to use 'sensitivity' as a means of censoring information where does it end? Do we not mention the atrocities of the Nazi regime because we do not want to 'glorify' such war crimes?
Okay then, start mentioning every single murderer from every single city then. There's no need for bias now is there.
In reply: Huntley's crimes gained exceptional notority across the country. At the time of massive media attention much was made of his links to Grimsby, especially in the light of previous behaviour in the area and accusations of other offences committed there. Huntley's name is sadly in the annals of infamous murderers as perceived by the media and the general public. If you read the entry for Bradford you will see reference to Peter Sutcliffe (The Yorkshire Ripper). If you read the entry for Crumpsall you will see reference to Myra Hindley. If you request Ian Brady you will see his birthplace given as Gorbals, Glasgow. The fact Huntley comes from Grimsby is in no way a slight on the town: Like you cannot choose your family, a town cannot choose its' residents. Wikipedia is not an advertising tool, designed to promote the good aspects of any one subject. It is there to record all relevant facts, good or bad.
Ian Huntley used to live in Immingham, and attended Immingham Comp. His family lived up by the ATC. He didn't live in Grimsby untill he left school and met Maxine. I still feel though that they should be mentioned as part of the history, it would be like not mentioning Jack the Ripper in a London Bio.
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:GrimsbyDockTower4.jpg
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[edit] New Paragraph
I'd love to accept that grimsby is a "small nation standing alone" but I've never heard that before in my life, as an expression or applied to grimsby. I have no idea what this big/small village thing means either. As far as the idea that a 21 year old has interacted with 50% of the other inhabitants, well I'd love to believe that too - so lets have it referenced, otherwise sadly we should take it off. Let's not get above ourselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.22.254 (talk) 20:42, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] World War Two recollection
I have moved the following personal recollection from the article Keith D 10:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
As a man born in Grimsby in 1940, I can remember my mother warning my brother and sister and me never to pick up anything, "not even a bus ticket". She was referring I learned later to the butterfly bomb. From what I remember her saying, did it fall to the ground without exploding, and was only later set off by the vibrations of someone walking towards it? My aunt, who lived a half mile from our house om Milton Road, had a next door neighbor who's husband left the house for work one morning. His bicycle wheel hit a butterfly bomb and he was blown to bits. I recall my mother says that his wife ran out of the house, hysterically picking up bits of his body. (Colin Cook, 11/1307) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.229.178.65 (talk • contribs) 05:41, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
In reply: Vibration would set a butterfly bomb, whether indirect or direct (as in someone picking one up). They were designed to look like scrap/sharpnel and therefore be kicked to one side with horrific consequences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.252.225.225 (talk) 19:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Parochial
Is there really any need for such petty trivia as the references to "Winsby", and various nobodies from reality TV shows? It makes Grimbarians seem extremely parochial.
Guv2006 (talk) 01:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
As someone who comes from the area, and who still has close links there, I'm inclined to say they should stay. It has always amazed me how the local paper manages to get a local connection to virtually any national or international story going, however tenuous. If you see the Grimsby Evening Telegraph as representative of the area (and it is a widely read paper by local media standards) then the success of locals in reality TV shows is important Gaffertape (talk) 18:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
