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Kananook, Victoria

Thanks for your edit to the above article. Youve placed an uncat box in the "Kananook Creek Section". Can you clarify that this is because the creek deserves its own article, or if your uncat tag was intended for the main body?

Encise 04:23, 16 November 2006 (UTC)Encise

Category:Lists of Ace Books

Hi. I've had an insight into the problem of bad links on the lists we've discussed on the Novels Project forum.

When I made my initial post, I really expected to be completely ignored, and to leave the thing in a mess. Your willingness to become involved changes everything.

It occurs to me that the task may not be quite as daunting as it at first appears. While there are many pages to deal with, the example of Dan Gordon leads me to believe that many of the authors we're dealing with might feature over several pages. This is a good thing.

Realising that there are many duplicates, I'm not so very reluctant to change the links. What I really can't be bothered with is figuring out how to change the links. Sure, I could just include (writer) in them all, but I don't think that's the correct approach in every case, and it could cause further problems in the long run. Changing Dan Gordon to Dan Gordon (writer), for example, is not much a solution given that two other Dan Gordons in Wikipedia are also writers.

You, on the other hand, have already identified my error in naming Lee Correy as a problem, and identified Samuel Peeples as Samuel A. Peeples, which is precisely the sort of detail I simply don't have time for. Good work. Of course, at the rate you're going, it will take you a couple of thousand years to change all the links.... ;)

Following your example, though, I have just changed all the links to Harry Whittington in the entire category, using AWB, while I have been writing this message. There were 44 of them.

I'm sure you see what I'm getting at. With you doing the detective work and me automating the bulk of the edits, we can make short work of this.

Shall we work together, then?

TheMadBaron 20:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I've done John Callahan (48 links). I'm going to bed. I'll do Peeples tomorrow. You're sure Samuel A. is the right Peeples? TheMadBaron 21:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
It's a good job that I didn't change all the Peeples links while I was too tired to think straight.... having thought about it, rather than change those links, I've simply redirected Samuel Peeples to Samuel A. Peeples, which will serve quite adequately if the information is correct, without causing major problems if it's wrong. I suggest that we leave those links alone, at least until we have confirmation - and even then, it would be wrong to edit a page just to avoid the redirect, as this would pace an unnecessary burden on the servers.
I noticed that there are also links to Brad Ward, Peeples' pen name (but a link to a former politician in Ontario). Some of these links are on the same page as entries crediting "Samuel Peeples (as Brad Ward)". I will change them all to this format.
I agree that "author" is better than "writer" for our purposes.
When you're ready, please let me know what my next link replacement tasks are.
TheMadBaron 05:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Update - I confirmed Peeples ([1]), expanded his page accordingly, and added a dablink to Brad Ward. I'm going to create a stub for Frank Gruber. TheMadBaron 07:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Update - I read your contributions again, and changed the following:

This overwrites your changes to add "(writer)", replacing this with "(author)", except in the case of Frank Wynne, listed somewhere as a pen name of Brian Garfield.

I just saw your messages, and I'll do those in a moment.

TheMadBaron 14:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll bid you goodnight, then. I'm working on Garfield. No, not the cat. Here's a really useful resource for pen names (change the letter in the URL to the surname initial of choice.) TheMadBaron 15:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I expanded Garfields page, and put a dablink on the other Frank Wynne. I also changed:

  • Brian Wynne Garfield (as Frank Wynne) to Brian Garfield (as Frank Wynne),
    or in a couple of instances
  • Brian Wynne Garfield to Brian Garfield (as Brian Wynne Garfield)

(sorry to be hogging your user page with this degree of trivia, but I like to keep thorough records!)

He's got several other pen names too, the cad. I listed them on his page.

TheMadBaron 18:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

In progress, prolly done by the time you see this (a few server errors, though)

TheMadBaron 19:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Afternoon! Done

Actually, this last one didn't occur. Note that Dean Owens is also listed, as are titles by Wayne D. Overholser and Lewis B. Patten (jointly as Dean Owen) and Dudley Dean Mcgaughty (as Dean Owen). I think I'm going to cry. TheMadBaron 10:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I just saw your note. I'll add them to the next batch. "William A. P. White (as Anthony Boucher)" isn't right, though. That should be "William A. P. White (as Anthony Boucher)". I'll create a redirect at William A. P. White regardless. Thinking about it, to be consistent, I should have used "Rene Brabazon Raymond (as James Hadley Chase)" And I reviewed the above lists and noticed I didn't do Alexander Wilson properly. TheMadBaron 16:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm using this form, which I think is more elegant:

(except where AWB changed "Samuel Anthony Peeples (as Brad Ward)" to "Samuel A. Peeples (as Samuel Anthony Peeples) (as Brad Ward)", which is kinda surreal, so I used "Samuel A. Peeples (as Brad Ward)" instead)

It's best to use simple links where possible, I think, but also preferable to name the author as written (presumably) by the publisher for any given book....so....

Also changed (if they occured, and some probably didn't):

and the rest of your changes as listed on my talk page, if they occurred again elsewhere (with apologies for using your talk page for my records):

Also, Atlantida to Atlantida.

I shoulda checked before changing Harry Whittington to Harry Whittington, but rather than change them all back, I just moved the page. TheMadBaron 00:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

We broke another one! It's not my fault, officer, he made me do it.

TheMadBaron 07:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

TheMadBaron 18:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

All done. TheMadBaron 04:21, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Afternoon!
I've been slowly working my way down List of Ace Miscellaneous Letter-Series Single Titles and came across
I've dug a bit around on this and found Whit Masterson.
I changed it to
But I think it can be done better. Thoughts? Grey Shadow 05:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, you should italicise the title, of course :p, and there's no point linking to Miller and Wade, which are dab pages without appropriate links. So:
*D-518 NA Bill Miller and Robert Wade (as Wade Miller) Nightmare Cruise (1961)
I'll add a dab link to Wade Miller.
Keep up the good work, detective.
TheMadBaron 05:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

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Hi, interesting notion. What elements of "science fiction" are present in the stories then, always eager to learn something new. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 13:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Your point appears well made, sorry if I upset things a bit. Perhaps a shared genre designation for some of these later novels would be better then, i.e. Fantasy novel and Science fiction novel as well. Thanks :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 14:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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Finished updating entry to correct tense. Grey Shadow | Talk 09:21, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

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  • The project has currently 214 members, 8 joined & 1 leavers since the last newsletter at the start of February 2007
Other news
  • The Assessment department has managed to assess (in some form) nearly all the main articles. The emphasis will now change to identifying needed article improvement, however keeping a watch on newly tagged articles with a view to properly assess those.
  • A new Peer review department has kicked off with one of my early articles as a starting point. Please do give it a look, start reviewing and suggest other articles that you believe could benefit from another pair of eyes.
  • The Children and Young Adult Literature portal was created by User:KGV, go take a look.
Auto list news
  • Currently stalled - if anyone has the means to help out here with re-generation of these list - please do!
Current debates
  • The End of Fair Use? is notification of a serious debate going on across WikiPedia.
  • Another possible problem hasn't really got going as a debate but maybe should have. It highlights a need to put in content to articles that asserts "notability" and gives proper referencing to articles.
Task Forces
Project volunteers
  • Volunteers needed - if any members feel able to take on project tasks such as leading Task Forces, editing this Newsletter, monitoring and maintaining the Announcements template, heading up Outreach activity, managing Collaboration or Assessment activity or anything else you believe needs special attention, please let us know.
From the Members

Welcome to the tenth issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

We would encourage all members to get more involved and if you are wondering what with, please ask.

Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk), Initiating Editor
Collaboration of the Month
Newsletter challenge

Last months A Taste for Death challenge was met by the user Barbara Osgood (talk · contribs) with a brief stub .... again this could still handle some development.

  • The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is Ivan Turgenev's - On the Eve.

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This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 02:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

AfD discussion

List of Marvel Comics endearments has been nominated — unfortunately, I believe — for deletion. As a contributor to that article, you might want to comment, pro or con, at its "Articles for Deletion" discussion. --Tenebrae 05:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello.

Hi.

I have reviewed some of your contributions, and I am thoroughly dissatisfied. Please post on my talk page, and I will tell you why.

Thank you.

Element03 12:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:A_Little_Princess_novel_cover.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:A_Little_Princess_novel_cover.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. ↔NMajdan•talk 21:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XI - April 2007

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue XI - April 2007
Project news
  • The project has now passed the 10,000 article tagged as in scope. It is hoped to see much more effort going into the improvement of these articles. Those of particular concern are those of "high" or even "top" importance/priority that are still only stubs. If any of these are about anything you know about or can quickly research please add what you can.
Member news
  • The project has currently 217 members, 5 joined & 2 leavers since the last newsletter at the start of March 2007
Other news
Department & Task Force news
  • We now have five administration Departments which now include an Automation Department which is the home for support and administration of automated update activity. Anyone with such experience and can get involved look in here for work ideas and to make suggestions.
  • The three task forces are gradually growing but need support to succeed. Also if you have further such ideas for co-operation - also let us know.
Auto list news
  • Our Auto Generated lists appear to have lost the editor who created and supported them. If any other editors have the ability and are willing to have a stab at producing replacement updates, please let us know.
Current debates
From the Members

Welcome to the eleventh issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

We would encourage all members to get more involved and if you are wondering what with, please ask.

Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk), Initiating Editor
Collaboration of the Month
Newsletter challenge

Last month's On the Eve challenge was met by the user TAnthony (talk · contribs) (who is possibly from the planet Arrakis) with a nice stub ....

  • The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is the genre Political thriller.

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Delivered by Grafikbot 11:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)