User talk:Greensburger

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Hello, Greensburger, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Those who want information on the entire Epic of Gilgamesh will want to go to the Epic of Gilgamesh page. However, there is much that has been written on the Gilgamesh version (Tablet XI) of the flood myth that will interest people who are not interested in the immortality theme in the Epic. I created this Gilgamesh flood myth page to focus on the flood story. Greensburger 16:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you know that you're doing a great job on Gilgamesh flood myth. Keep up the good work! Also, don't forget that you can customize your userpage, and your talk page is more for conversation with other users. Regards, AdamBiswanger1 18:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Cut and paste moves

  1. Don't do cut and paste move
  2. Don't try to move The Genesis Flood - the story to which it refers is at Noah's Ark and both are staying put.

— Dunc|☺ 16:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't think of moving the Noah's Ark page. Nor would I think of deleting the page promoting the Whitcomb and Morris book. I bought their book when it first came out in the 1960's and found it very interesting. However it is a violation of Wikipedia rules to promote somebody's book by giving it a monopoly on a generic phrase. A generic phrase such as "the Genesis flood" should point to a disambiguation page that points to the Whitcomb and Marris book, and to the Noah's Ark page, etc. If somebody wrote a book titled "Noah's Ark" (and there are several), you would certainly not approve of it monopolizing the generic phrase "Noah's Ark" and neither would I. I think my attempt to distinguish "The Genesis Flood (the book)" from the generic phrase "The Genesis flood" is a proper use of disambiguation. Please restore the disambiguation page. Greensburger 17:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

No. The title of the book is The Genesis Flood, beginning with The. Like The Pipettes is different from Pipette (aaah, Rose...) — Dunc|☺ 17:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Utnapishtim move

I put it through the process mainly because I suspected the page was being watched by a lot of the contributors to Noah's ark and didn't really have a sense for how controversial it might be among them. Perhaps not very, but sometimes it's hard to tell. If there are no responses within a few days I'll just go ahead and do it. TCC (talk) (contribs) 21:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I finished inserting the references in the Ziusudra section. Greensburger 21:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I noticed. Excellent work. I wonder if the Atrahasis epic is similar enough to merge there as well, or if it had developed sufficiently further that it's best to consider it separately? I have no strong opinion about it myself. (Relative to Ziusudra, "Atrahasis" sounds almost like an epithet taken for a name.) TCC (talk) (contribs) 22:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

There is no question that the Epic of Atrahasis is closely related to the Epic of Ziusudra and the Utnapishtim story in the Epic of Gilgamesh, but each has its own little area of uniqueness that would get blurred if they were just sections of one large page. The relationships should be shown with a summary paragraph accompanied by cross references. I will add a paragraph to the Ziusudra/Utnapishtim page to mention Atrahasis, but only one paragraph. I likewise resisted the urge to add more content to the Atrahasis page, but instead I created a new page Gilgamesh flood myth that shows the relationships between the flood myth sections of the Epics of Atrahsis and Utnapishtim tablet XI in the Epic of Gilgamesh, without getting into the other relationships with the other flood myths. There is a lot more to be said on the Atrahasis and Gilgamesh flood myth pages, but they should be kept separate from the Atrahasis page and the Ziusudra page. Otherwise, there would be one large page that loses focus, just as the flood myth gets blurred on the Epic of Gilgamesh page, which is about Gilgamesh's quest for immortality and not about the flood myth. Greensburger 00:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genesis 5 article

I have looked at the Amazon summary of the Robert Best book, [1], and it seems like this may not be original research after all. If so, the article needs to be edited to make clear (at the beginning!) that this is reporting on someone else's theory. (No comment at this point on whether the theory is notable or not.) Also, the title of the article should be changed to make clear that the article is about Best's theory, not about Genesis 5 itself. If you do that, I might be persuaded to withdraw the AFD nomination. NawlinWiki 16:38, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I added the line you suggested at the beginning. Greensburger 17:01, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the title, if you change the title to "Genesis 5 (mistranslation theory)" I would have no problem with that. I don't know how to do it without cutting and pasting to a new title. Is that what you want me to do? Greensburger 17:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Changing the title requires a page move. I'm busy now but will look at it later this afternoon. NawlinWiki 17:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

After reviewing the comments so far in the AFD discussion, I think the best choice is to move this into a new section in the Genealogies of Genesis article. I have voted "Merge" in the AFD discussion. I think I'd better not actually do anything to the article until the discussion is complete, though. NawlinWiki 19:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I have no objection to my Genesis 5 comments & tables being moved to a new section of Genealogies of Genesis where it is certainly relevant. I considered doing that, but I feared that it would be deleted by somebody who is hostle to any suggestion that Genesis 5 was mistranslated. Such people may be very protective of the Genealogies of Genesis page, so I thought a separate page would avoid an edit war. Also my Genesis 5 comments would be relevant only to Genesis 5 and not to Genesis 11 which are run together in Genealogies of Genesis. Greensburger 20:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Just so you know, Genesis 5 redirects to Genesis for a good reason: the title "Genesis 5" refers to a chapter in the book of Genesis. Geneaologies of Genesis is not a synonym of Genesis 5. The material that used to be there went to Geneaologies, but that doesn't mean the redirect should go there if it doesn't make sense. Mangojuicetalk 01:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

You said "Geneaologies of Genesis is not a synonym of Genesis 5." Actually Genesis 5 is entirely about genealogies. Look at it from a future searcher's viewpoint. If they search for "Genesis 5", they certainly want biblical genealogy material, rather than stories about Abraham and Sodom and Gomorrah and other irrelivant stuff in Genesis. I therefore requested that you change the Genesis 5 redirect from Genesis to Genealogies of Genesis. Greensburger 01:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plumbago - alternative meanings

I believe that your additions to the Plumbago article fit better in the diambiguation page. I will try and insert them there but I would appreciate your checking that I have the context correct. Mrs Trellis 22:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I overlooked the disambiguation link. Thank you for correcting my mistake. I added clarifying language on the disambiguation page. Greensburger 05:30, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:History of telephone

Replied there.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  19:50, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rock-Ola

I see that you removed that part of the article. Unfortunately, the deletion discussion has already begun so removing the tag from the article wouldn't affect anything. However, it seems like the early consensus on this article is to keep. You may contribute to the discussion by clicking here. After about one week of discussion, a decision will be made by an administrator to either keep or delete the article. At that time, the AfD tag will be removed from the article by the closing administrator. --דניאל ~ Danielrocks123 talk contribs Count 02:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carbon microphone

You recently wrote in this article "Carbon amplifiers are still being produced and sold." Do you have a source for this statement? --Gerry Ashton 20:29, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

A google search on "carbon amplifier" yielded more than 600 hits. Here are a few: http://www.comtronicsindustrial.com/vxi/tuffsetcarbon3.html (Carbon III amplifier)

http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Mobile-wireless/p/2000000003844/3000000149681/sm/1001808663.htm (twin plug)

http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model_30005.htm?sid=DA825E96852B4EFA5AEB2EE77662681F "cord for Everon, Blazer, Versa, 60V and carbon amplifiers" in catalog of Cisco and Lucent IP headsets. Greensburger 01:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

That's interesting, I never would have guessed these were still sold. Can you add a citation to the article? --Gerry Ashton 02:18, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Done. It was also a surprise to me when I did a google search. Greensburger 02:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello. I created a baby stub for the article benzethonium chloride.

Free free to jump into the contributions with this benzethonium chloride stub. I agree with you that there are concerns about some types of chemicals. Good Luck. BenzethoniumChloride 06:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of WCI Communities Inc.

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[edit] References for "Advanced Mobile Phone System"

Hi, I noticed that you added some unattached references to Advanced Mobile Phone System. I'd be grateful if you could let us know which statements/parts of the article these refer to. Thanks! Fourohfour 13:26, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I added the references you requested. W. R. Young was the Bell Labs engineer who invented the hexagonal cell concept. Phil Porter was the Bell Labs engineer who proposed that the cell towers be at the corners of the hexagons rather than the centers and have directional antennas that would transmit/receive in 3 directions into 3 adjacent hexagon cells. Greensburger 17:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I included some of the background you gave on the authors in the references as well. Hope this is okay. Fourohfour 16:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Under his wing

Thanks for all your good work on the Thomas Edison article. I agree that flights of poetic fancy are problematic, considering that this article gets translated into so many foreign language versions of Wikipedia. I think that the article is in pretty good shape at this point, but still has some POV unsourced criticism and claims that others were the "true inventor" of everything most books and encyclopedias credit Thomas Edison with inventing. There are literally thousands of pages on this inventor in scores of books, both primary and secondary sources, so the era of unsourced material (of any but the most uncontroversial sort) is probably over. You might also find Nathan Stubblefield an interesting article. Edison 22:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Simultaneous reverts on Edison article

We both reverted the article to fix vandalism, but I took it back to a version with more Wikilinks. What do you think? Edison 13:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I was about to do the same, when I noticed you had already done it. Thanks. Greensburger 13:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Patent Caveat

Nice article. Thanks--Nowa 21:07, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wright Bros Talk

It appears you responded to a comment about Jatho by copying and pasting comments I have previously made on the general subject. I think we agree on the issue, but it would be better if you commented in your own words. Comments over my signature should only be entered by myself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DonFB (talk • contribs) 19:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Just a guess...

Allo.
I imagine it was mostly a rhetorical question, but relating to your question here, the first thing that comes to mind is menu navigation. For example, say you want to reset the program (don't ask why; I have no clue). You press the 'home' button, and use the pointer to choose 'Reset'. But, wait, if there wasn't a hole there, then you'd need to physically remove the controller, reset, and then pop it back into the wheel, right? And the same might be true of other menu navigation within specific titles.
Not saying that is the reason (hence the 'fact' tag being very much appropriate), just speculating. :) Bladestorm 16:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edits to direct quotes

Greensburger, please do not change direct quotes from published sources unless you are correcting them for a misquote. Please see your edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Inflation_accounting&diff=next&oldid=146367319 in inflation accounting. If you are correcting a misquote, please say so in the edit summary. Thank you! --Foggy Morning 10:24, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Russell Blaylock

Hi Greensburger. I've put a question on the Talk:Russell_Blaylock which you might want to answer. NCdave 19:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I've posted a follow-up there. NCdave 11:34, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to send you a private email, but your Wikipedia email address is not set up. Would you mind either setting it up or else sending me an email to which I can reply? Thanks. NCdave 16:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thomas Edison

Per your edit [2] in the Thomas Edison article, isn't it contrary to style conventions of Wikipedia to Wikilink the same term multiple times in an article? Direct and alternating current were both previously Wikilinked. Why do they need it again in this section? Too many repetitive Wikilinks make an article harder to read. Regards. Edison 22:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to Vitamin D. Thank you. --Slashme 13:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

And again today, same issue, same article. *grumble grumble*. --Slashme (talk) 20:49, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whoops

Placed warning on wrong user's page. Sorry about that! Into The Fray T/C 14:25, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your work on reverting vandalism to Joseph Henry

The headline more or less says it all! I have put the standard vandalism warnings onto a couple of the user pages. I imagine we'll need to request that this user (or users) be blocked shortly; they seem very persistent. Easchiff 02:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The coming of the personal computer

I have to disagree with you update to the Telex section of Teleprinter for a number of reasons.

First, I've never seen a situation where a "coming technology" displaced an existing technology. The new ("coming") technology has to actually be in place and operational and available. And, you added your opinion (with no citation) to the Telex section which I feel is inappropriate as you direct most of your comments to private line Teletype service.

Your timeframes are off by five to seven years. In fact, the implementation of business fax machines, in the mid to late 1970s, had a much larger impact to the decline in both private line and Telex service in the business community, the majority user of Teletype based services at that time.

E-mail Services emerged, in the 1980s and into the 1990s, after the introduction of business fax machines had already caused the decline of Telex and other teleprinter services.

Your second paragraph is an opinion piece and a request for the addition of the Bell function. I may be way off-base here, but I don't feel that WiKipedia should be the place for you to post your suggestions for the "Bell" function in e-mail and other computer fucntions.

Finally, Teletype is always spelled with a capital T.

Will you revert your errored update or should I do so?


No wait, someone already corrected the damage that you caused.

Wa3frp (talk) 14:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paul Revere's Ride

There is a lot of vandalism in Paul Rever's Ride's article. Please Help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.198.7 (talk) 21:28, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Xisuthros is not Noah

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[edit] Jack Best

Hi, I just saw the Jack Best article you created. Just thinking, that his involvement with the famous Colditz glider exploit might be worth a mention [3]. FlowerpotmaN·(t) 00:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You've been mentioned at the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard

Hello Greensburger, see the discussion. You are welcome to join in there and add your own comments. EdJohnston (talk) 02:20, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FAR

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[edit] BOFD

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[edit] Re: Cite error

Admittedly, I am not sure what exactly your problem is. I myself use {{reflist}} when adding a references list rather than <references/>. I'm not sure if that will make a difference, it might solve your problem. That is about all I can tell you. Sorry that I can't do better. :( Captain panda 03:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Richard Coulter

Thanks for your interesting article on General Coulter. I made a few changes in format and links, and added a little more information. Feel free to add more specific in-line citations / footnotes, particularly since you cite two specific pages from reference works. An interesting story that you will appreciate—for many years, Howard Coulter, a grandson of General Coulter, attended the same church that I did. Mr. Coulter was quite aged, but he and I liked to discuss the Civil War and the Battle of Gettysburg. He used to tell me stories of how, as a young boy in the early 1900s, he played on the old general's homestead, often running around the yard swinging the sword that Coulter had used at Gettysburg. 8th Ohio Volunteers (talk) 17:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gilgamesh flood myth

Hi, I've just been looking at this article. I greatly admire the work you've done, but the entire Alternative translations section seems to be original research. I'm assuming, for instance, that this is your own comment, not a quote: "Why most translators disregard the clear meaning of this sentence is not clear. Kovacs' translation implies that the flood hero's offering was at a ziggurat." Unless you can rewrite this so that it is based on reliable sources views, I don't see any alternative to deleting the section, sad as that might be. Doug Weller (talk) 17:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)