Talk:Grey Griffins (book series)

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See at the article's Peer Review King Rock ^{Go 'Skins!} 21:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Grey Griffins (book series) was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. Reviewed version: June 8, 2008

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[edit] B Grade

First I think that we should work on getting this page to B Grade King Rock ^{Go 'Skins!} 03:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Done! :) King Rock ^{Go 'Skins!} 03:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article

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   (a) the prose is clear and the spelling and grammar are correct; and

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[edit] Eventually

Eventually this is what we will have to do to get this article to FA status.

1. It is well-written, comprehensive, factually accurate, neutral and stable.
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4. It is of appropriate length, staying focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

[edit] Edit

Sorry King, forgot to explain that (?). There is a word missing... he found the book in his Grandparents' house, attic, boat, what? Assuming he didn't find it actually in his grandparents. Dozenthey (talk) 19:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

I'm going to have to be honest - this article suffers badly from poor writing. The lead paragraph repeats the words "the series" over and over, and the plot summaries are only somewhat comprehensible, as they leave a lot out. It has no mention of reviews of the book, and I don't think it's quite passed GA yet. Sorry! Do keep working at it, and I'll happily review it again later. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 18:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

A few other things to consider:

1. A few of the sections are very short and would benefit from expansion. Currently, two of the sections are only one sentence long.
2. There is no fair use rationale for Image:Grayson.jpg.
3. The references are missing important information. At minimum, they should include a title, publisher, url, and accessdate. If a publication date and/or author is listed, this information should be included as well. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for the {{cite web}} template. GaryColemanFan (talk) 19:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)