Talk:Greg Mathis

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The person who believes it is appropriate to integrate some personal advertiseing of their web page- which isn't even very interesting or entertaining, and obvious is just a vanity website, detracts from the higher goal of wikipedia to make the encyclopedia a worthwhile and reliable reference source. Thus I deleted the material below:

"He has also been recognised in the best page in the universe's tribute to real men.[1]"--Mikerussell 18:01, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 judging 2 NPOV? 3 a retired Michigan 36th District Court judge? 4 Addictions

[edit] judging

Anything in the article about the good humor of Judge Mathis? He is probably the funniest judge. He has me laughing on each episode and his courtroom looks pretty cool too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.31.99.71 (talk • contribs) 11 October 2006.

[edit] NPOV?

This article is obviously NPOV. We need to clean it up and actually cite sources. This dude has a bio better than Kim Jong Il's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.24.52.51 (talk • contribs)

That doesn't even make sense. NPOV means neutral point of view, and you don't provide any actual basis for this. Thats the way an article should be. Please read over WP:NPOV ,in full before you attempt to go any further on this.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 05:43, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

The source, more or less, is the book, it might be useful to tag the page numbers to the sections, but the only real source used is his published memoir that goes up to his getting the Judgeship in Detroit and just barely addresses his TV show. If you, or anybody else can find other sources, then add them and expand the article. It is not POV to use a published source and to document his achievements. Nor is the article POV in my opinion, it is pretty frank about his criminal conduct, troubled family background, struggles to keep on the right side of the law, and mentions his illgetimate kid and failing the bar exam- all things Judge Judy, I bet, or many other people concerned about their public image, would ever willingly discuss in print. The book, and not this article, even talks about him getting an STD as a kid- so it is far from a "puff piece" biography like so many other wanna-be politicians and celebrities. Personally, my hunch is that he is too candid for some readers and people want to slam him for being who is and not "conforming" or trying to "pass" as part of the legal establishment's expected manner and way of talking about his past. That being said, if their are "negative" sources, find them and add them. --Mikerussell 04:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Someone who knows anything about this dude, please edit this hagiography. It reads like a Hallmark Special about Santa Claus combined with Ghandi.

Sorry, Gandhi. But hopefully you take my point.

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It's still not NPOV. For instance: "but he met his eventual wife shortly after her passing and Linda, a fellow EMU student, would grow into his soul mate, and the two would go on to have three children together." I don't think it's NPOV to call someone a "soul mate" and this shouldn't be included unless it's a direct quote. I deleted it.

Also, for some reason the article skips from his first failure of the bar exam to his appointment to judge. I think we're missing something there.Ormaybemidgets (talk)

[edit] a retired Michigan 36th District Court judge?

the first sentence mentions this, but nothing in the article discusses it. was he appointed? by whom? was he elected? when did he serve? Kingturtle (talk) 16:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Obviously he was elected, why someone edited out such factual information from the article gives you an idea why wikipedia is always a poor source. I reentered the factual account, but if you are looking for real sources search here, oh but yeah- they aren't impartial and objective according to the brainacs here- just if you want true info they are the place to go. (If you need a bunch of people to tell you what is "objective" and "neutral"- use the wikipedia article and the junta of NPOV thought police, but if you can trust yourself to measure a variety sources read more widely including these links and think for yourself!) [2] [[3]], --Mike Russell 14:43, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Addictions

I just wanted to comment on drug addictions as well as alcohol addiction. Judge Mathis has mentioned several times how people can't stop smoking crack, cyrstal meth, or drinking without help. That is not true and I am living proof of it. I smoked crack for several years as well as cyrstal meth (at a different time in life). I also drank, (after my drug years) for 8 years. I drank whiskey daily and lots of it,(1.75 liters every two to three days). I am currently clean and sober on my own with no outside help whatsoever. I have been off of crack for about twenty years. I currently was roommates with my cousin who smoked daily(crack), and I wouldn't touch it if you put a gun to my head. The same with cyrstal(1992-1994).I just recently quit drinking because it was just causing too many problems, personal and healthwise.Rbelew (talk) 23:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)