Talk:Green Party of Kosovo

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[edit] Requested move to Green Party of Kosovo

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.


Green Party of Kosova → Green Party of Kosovo — Thus moving from the Albanian-language form "Kosova" (used by the party in its official web-site) to the more commonly used "Kosovo".

  • This new title would follow Wikipedia's naming conventions, which state that "generally, article naming should prefer what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize", and the naming conventions on using English, which calls for using "the most commonly used English version of the name for the article, as you would find it in other encyclopedias and reference works."
  • As can be seen in the examples of usage below, "Green Party of Kosovo" is commonly used in English-language publications by international organizations, while the use of "Green Party of Kosova" is mostly restricted to Albanian ones.
  • It would also be consistent with the article on Kosovo and those on other political parties of Kosovo.

Best regards, Ev 06:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Move to Green Party of Kosovo

  1. Move, as nominator. - Ev 06:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  2. Support as per nomination --Kimontalk 13:53, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  3. Support per nom.--Húsönd 02:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Keep at Green Party of Kosova

  • Sorry, Ev, if we're going to follow English usage, that's Kossovo. But I see no reason not to call the party what it calls itself. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
  • The article on the region is Kosovo and even the UN spells it with one "s"[1]. Also, the party calls itself something in its own language, not in English. --Kimontalk 23:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move per suggestion

I encourage you to simply be bold and move the page. You have clearly put a lot of thought into this, and your reasoning seems very sound. The one detractor did not seem very strident, and has not returned to defend his/her views. -Pete 02:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Examples of usage

Google test:


Among the results for "Green Party of Kosovo":


The full results for "Green Party of Kosova":

Best regards, Ev 06:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Add any additional comments:
  • Comment on Septentrionalis/PMAnderson's opinion:

First of all, it's my general perception that currently this region is usually referred to as "Kosovo" (one s). The old form "Kossovo" (double s) remains a valid alternative usage, and I personally like it very much :-) but it no longer constitutes common English usage.

In any case, a Google search for "Green Party of Kossovo" gives zero results (and asks: Did you mean: "Green Party of Kosovo" ?).

Then, our Naming conflict#Dealing with self-identifying terms guideline mentions that "commonly used English translations of self-identifying terms are usually preferred per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) guideline."

I stress the mention of commonly used English translation, usually preferred per WP:UE, instead of references to "the English translation used by the institution itself".

This party's Albanian name is "Partia e të Gjelbërve të Kosovës". The party itself uses the English translation "Green Party of Kosova", as do many institutions and organizations from Kosovo that use the Albanian forms as their own self-identifying English-language names (despite the fact that most English-language reliable sources still tend to use the Serbo-Croatian forms).

These includes how Kosovo's cities choose to name themselves in the English-language versions of their official web pages:

Or take a look a the list of "Municipalities of Kosovo" at Kosovo's Government Portal in English: only Malisevo uses a non-Albanian name.

Other political parties & organizations:

These are clear examples of how those institutions and organizations already identify themselves in English using the Albanian names, while the Serbo-Croatian forms remain common English usage. Of course, the latter are the ones the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, and thus are the ones currently used in the article titles of the English Wikipedia.

At the moment, this article on the Green Party is an exception in using the Albanian form "of Kosova" instead of the commonly used English translation "of Kosovo".

I do see this as a good reason not to call the party what it calls itself. Of course, you don't have to agree with me :-) Best regards, Ev 04:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

This article has been renamed from Green Party of Kosova to Green Party of Kosovo as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 07:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)