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"Vihreä Liitto is no longer a protest party or an alternative movement, but a respectable option for those young, well educated, urban voters in the south who cannot support SDP or the Conservatives (Kokoomus). Its blind spot are the rural countryside, particularly municipalities experiencing strong outward migration."
Ehm? Why it is such a respectable option? What does it drive that SDP or Kokoomus does not drive? As the article presents no information on this point, it is only fair that it is NPOV modified. Finlander 23:49, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Position
The Green League is, like almost any other green party, a modern left-wing party. I am a member of The Socialistic Peoples Party in Denmark, which is a green socialistic party, and we share values and politics with green parties in all topics. The Green Leagues social- and labour policy is so much based on solidarity and democracy that they have to be a modern left-wing party. I think the reason that many greens don't wan't to be called left is because the left-right scale usually defines socialism vs. liberalism. I that way the left-right scale is completly outdated. But if left-right scale is a question of how much you want to change society(like in Denmark), then almost all green parties, including The Green League of Finland, is left-wing. Because making a society based on ecology, solidarity, radical democarcy, non-violence, sustainability and respect for diversity that is changing society. That is why I have changed the text of position and the ideology part of this article(Loens 22:06, 7 October 2006 (UTC))
- Well I'm a member of the Finnish Green league and its party council, and I can tell you that the Finnish party is centre-left (maybe more centre than left), not left-wing. That is the common perception in Finland and there is research on the supporters of the Green League which clearly demonstrates this, too.
- For example in a resent study by Tuomo Martikainen and Sami Fredriksson on young voters in Helsinki region 28,1 % supported the greens. Of these voters
- 33,5 % were in modern left
- 34,9 % were in centre-right
- 5,3 % were market libarals
- 4,3 % were neo-conservatives
- 22,1 % had no strong position
- These classifications have to understood, naturally, in the Finnish context, where those who are in centre-right are for a strong welfare state but also favour market mechanism. (Maybe quite close to "Ny moderaterna" in Sweden but also close to the Finnish Social Democratic party.) -Samulili 09:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
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- A similar categorization has been made among all voters in Finland but I don't have that at hand. If I remember correctly, the majority of green voters were in centre-left and equally large minorities in centre-right and left. -Samulili 09:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi! I have seen that you have re-edited some of my changes to the articel about the Green League of Finland. First I want to say that I don't either wants to start an edit war :-). As I have explained, my party(The Socialist People's Party from Denmark) have started to cooperate closely with the greens parties, because we think that they, like us, are to the left of the social democratic parties(left-wing). My party have recieved an observer post in the European Green Party and our MEP is in the Greens-EFA group. I still see green parties(including the Green League) as left-wing, beacause of there politics and what it is based on. But I am almost satisfied with the current formulation in the article, and therefore I don't want change it, if it remains as it is now. Have a nice day.(Loens 15:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC))
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