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[edit] Arabic

Could someone provide a transliteration for the Arabic "Green Man"? Using Arabic script in this type of article is superfluous. Those who can read Arabic can make do with a transliteration.

Peter Isotalo 11:01, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it's in there, "Al-Khidr". I moved the Arabic script to a more logical place. I'd like to keep it, as I think it makes it look more official, but then again, I'm a bit biased, as I'm an student in Arabic. Wrad 11:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA candidate comments

I think this article covers the main points, the main literature where the character appears and the main interpretations. I would like to see the prose touched up some. The paragraph split in the lead seems off. The first sentence seems to go better with the first paragraph, with the second paragraph emphasizing the "greenness". I would like to see a mention of other points critics find relevant, such as the beard compared to a bush, and the way the Green Chapel is overgrown. I realize this is not an article on the Gawain text per se, but it is relevant how the character is used in the various texts, and how they differ. The connection with Christmas, the colorful imagery (green and red and gold), and the beheading themes would be worth developing to illustrate how and why this character was used in the Gawain story. Some of this would take research, and is perhaps a bit more of an FA than a GA requirement. So for now:

Y Done fixed the intro. Will add more as we push for FA status. Wrad 18:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Severely limit the use of the word "also". The word can usually be eliminated, improving the text with no loss of meaning.
Y Done Wrad 18:01, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Add something about the nature imagery associated with the Green Knight.
Y Done don't know how we missed that one. Added a bit about his connections with nature. Wrad 19:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
A bit more on the differences in the character between the three texts mentioned. In Greene Knight, for instance, the character returns to Arthur's court, but not in the Gawain text.
Y Done Can't believe we missed that one. Wrad 18:01, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Something, even a sentence, which addresses the question - why is this particular character recurring in medieval literature? The character plays a role in Arthurian legend, but what the role does the character play, or is thought to play, in broader medieval thought? Gimmetrow 07:33, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Y Done explained this in first paragraph of intro. Wrad 19:09, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Looks good. Gimmetrow 03:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology section

Basically, I put the "Bachlach" info there because it was in a peer-reviewed, scholastic journal. I kind of figure that is enough to back it up. The article says nothing about the specific language, probably because it didn't want to get into technical detail. I'd like to keep it. If anyone knows where "Bachlach" comes from and can add it, that would be great, though. Wrad 04:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm sure whoever wrote it in the article was just mentioning it in passing. But there's no such thing as a "Celtic language". Welsh would not have the same word for "churl" as Irish or Breton. I'd rather we had a more detailed referenced, but it's probably a minor point.--Cúchullain t/c 07:54, 3 June 2007 (UTC)