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Contents 1 Article start 2 EAM and ELAS 3 Praises 4 Famine during occupation 5 ELAS 6 Other Article

[edit] Article start

Loosely modelling this on French Resistance. Hope to develop it as part of the History of Greece series, currently collaboration of the week. --Jpbrenna 1 July 2005 04:00 (UTC)

[edit] EAM and ELAS

The fact is that they were not two different resistance organizations. Rather, there was the EAM as a wide anti-occupation front which created ELAS as its military operations branch. - Michalis Famelis 2 July 2005 15:05 (UTC)

[edit] Praises

This has been added:

The resistance put up by the Greeks in WW2 was recognised as at the time as immense by both the allied and German sides looking on. At a time when mighty nations such as France with 45 million population had collapsed in 17 days, the Greeks managed to defeat the an Italian army twice its size and with many times its fire power means and then hold off the German and Bulgarian invasion for 2 months. This was longer than anyother nation up to that point. Winston Chruchill famously said after the Greek-Italian battle, "From now one we wont say Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks".

The measure of resistance was also paid considerable homage to by German officals:

Hitler's Chief of Staff Field Marshall Keitel stated at Nurenberg that, "The unbelievable strong resistance of the Greeks delayed by two or more vital months the German attack against Russia; if we did not have this long delay, the outcome of the war would have been different in the eastern front and in the war in general.”

A speech made at the Reichstag in 1941 said of the campaign; “It must be said, for the sake of historical truth, that amongst all our opponents, only the Greeks fought with such endless courage and defiance of death.” The diary of Joseph Goebbels 9 April 1941: “I forbid the Press to underestimate the Greeks, to defame them... The Fuhrer admires the bravery of Greeks.” —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.160.63 (talk • contribs) 02:51, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Famine during occupation

I have studied many sources and the matter is much more complicated than blaming the Germans. Greece was mainly producing oil, sultanas and tobacco, all taken in large by the Germans, leaving little for the local economy. The winter of 41 was also one of the worst recorded and Greece relied heavily on grains shipped by the British - who stopped all imports in order to deprive the Germans from supply. The Greek population in big cities fell victim of this strategy as much as the German exploitation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadjune (talk • contribs) 13:17, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ELAS

I have heard talk that ELAS committed many war attrocities during German occupation and were to blame for many problems of the time, does anyone have any further information on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmpoole (talk • contribs) 21:53, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

This is still a very politically charged subject in Greece and no common ground can be found between the two sides, so I would ignore it if I were you, it tends to open a can of worms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.112.34.133 (talk • contribs) 22:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

This may open a can of worms, but an article called : the Greek resistance is not credible if it doesn't deal with it.

Also, there should be a linguistic revision of this article. I am a non-native speaker, so I will not attempt it, but even I realize that the English of this article is terrible, with sometimes involuntarily comical effects, right in the midst of narration of tragical eventsGiordaano 13:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

MANY??? like what for example? like the germans? or the british? or the X para-military groups? or my mother?

THis throwing of sh*** on the face of ELAS must stop some time, it's not fun anymore, you know, it is becoming serious, and we are talking about people that denied everything they had to go up the mountains ang GET KILLED FOR US!! for god's sake!

Beltenebros 20:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other Article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistance_during_the_Holocaust —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.74.169.220 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)