Talk:Greater Tokyo Area
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[edit] More info
Shouldn't there be more information on the characteristics of the GTA?--BlueSunRed 06:09, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- What sorts of information would you like to see? Fg2 07:08, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Some definitions of the Greater Tokyo Area now include the southern portion of Ibaraki Prefecture (up to Tsukuba City)
[edit] Cities not within any cities?
What does the header Other Cities not within any cities mean?
[edit] Definition
関東地方/Kantou-region is 一都六県/いっとろっけん/ittorokken, one To and six Prefectures; Tokyo, Kanagawa, Chiba, Saitama, Ibaraki, Tochigi, and Gunnma.
首都圏/Shutoken is 一都六県 plus 山梨/やまなし/Yamanashi prefecture.
--Oda Mari 05:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
On Shuto-ken I made explanation on National_Capital_Region_(Japan). See also ja:首都圏
What is the Greater Tokyo Area article explaining about? 関東地方？ 首都圏？ 南関東？ They are different. Please clear the point of the article. --Oda Mari 06:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Could you read the article more carefully, Mari? Although I have not written that passage. This article is themed about the urban sprawl around Tokyo, which is best referred to as the GTA or "Tokyo (Toshi) Ken" as the Bureau of Statistics. The GTA is either the "Tokyo + three" or 50 - 70 km radius circle centred at Shinjuku. Other names are aliases whose definitions are different by person. Soredewa 11:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I think I read it carefully. What puzzles me is that the map shows only 南関東, yet the contents are written about some area where it seems like to be 首都圏. And where is the word 東京圏 coming from? I don't use the word and I looked up 5 国語辞典 but did not found the word. Looking at the jp.wiki, I learned this English article is a roughly translated excerpt from the Japanese 南関東 article. Unfortunately I don't think the original article is a good one.--Oda Mari 15:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
The main focus of the article as written is the statistical area known as 京浜葉大都市圏. Strictly speaking, it is not identical to Tokyo+Chiba+Kanagawa+Saitama. --Polaron | Talk 15:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
What is 京浜葉大都市圏? I Know 京浜工業地帯 but I've never heard the word. It's not common or familiar to almost all Japanese. I think the word really exists but it is not a word people use in their daily life. I'm sorry but I don't have time to spare right now. I'll learn about it and write you again. --Oda Mari 16:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC) I'm back. Yes, I found it in the Statics Bureau's page. I think the word is only used by them. Not a general word and a general conception at all. Maybe it's better to redirect(?) to the similar article.--Oda Mari 19:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry that I could offended you, Mari. I am not familiar with 京浜葉大都市圏 either. But I think the Statistics Bureau is worth some respect because it takes data on people's movements and argue upon them and have large influence on academic and political discussions. I assume 京浜葉大都市圏 is very close to the English-speaking people's perception of the GTA and Japanese-speaking people's Shuto-ken or Tokyo-ken. At the next release of 2005 census-related papers it would be 京浜さ葉大都市圏 because of Saitama city. Soredewa 08:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
You don't have to be sorry. I didn't feel offended at all. I just wrote my questions. That's all. And now I understand the importance of the article. Thank you Soredewa and Polaron.--Oda Mari 09:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I think South Kanto is a physical or administrative and solid concept the GTA is a demographic or economic and liquid concept. I do not feel Chōshi and Tateyama are within the GTA (of course there are strong commercial and tourism links but few commuters.) Probably it will be clearer to establish separate entries for the GTA and South Kanto and discuss their relationships. Soredewa 06:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
