Talk:Greater Helsinki

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I merged Helsinki Metropolitan Area into this, and reworded a lot of the article. (I was also going to merge in the articles with Finnish names like Pääkaupunkiseutu and Suur-Helsinki, but someone had already done that, which was nice.)

Some justification to this:

  • The terms "Helsinki metropolitan area", "Greater Helsinki", "Helsinki region", etc. are not that well-defined. In fact, they are often all used interchangeably, and sometimes each with more specific, albeit varying meanings. This is the case also with the Finnish terms such as "Pääkaupunkiseutu" and "Helsingin seutu".
  • Also, consider this: there is only one article on many of the lot bigger metropolitan areas, such as Chicagoland or Greater Los Angeles, etc. The Helsinki area with around one million people is, after all, relatively small for a metropolitan area. Having several articles makes things unnecessarily complicated, and may actually misrepresent the reality.

So, I think it is clearest to have one article where we try to explain the most common conceptions of the Helsinki region. --Jonik 12:12, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Why are the homeless statistics constantly being removed? Hey, this is interesting. I just saw this article in the Helsinginsanomat.

0.5% of the population in Helsinki area is homeless. http://www2.helsinginsanomat.fi/english/archive/news.asp?id=20000815xx5

Helsinki Metropolitan area(area=2,970.6 sq km) has about 6127 homeless. (6,127)/(1,232,595)= 0.50% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsinki_metropolitan_area


Earlier this year, the Los Angeles County-wide homeless count was conducted. The overall county number was released this past June. (The number was 91,000 people who are homeless.) LA County has a population of 10,179,716 (area= 10,517 sq km) 91,000/10,179,716= 0.89% http://homelesscount.lahsa.org/

The Los Angeles Metropolitan area is not the same as LA County, it includes 3 counties and the total population is 17,545,623. Area 87,972 sq km. --Lebite 00:17, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Since when is Sipoo part of Greater Helsinki? It isn't even in the same region (maakunta, landskap)! From what I've heard of Finnish newspapers, Sipooans want to stay separate from the capital region. Why not include Porvoo as well while you're at it? If you ask someone from Northern Savo, Kainuu, or Lapland, I don't think they can make much difference between Helsinki and Porvoo. JIP | Talk 19:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Definition of metropolitan area - official?

Just how 'official' is the wider, 12-municipality definition of the metropolitan area? Is it used in official statistics from Statistics Finland? Is it used by any local planning authority? The article just mention it as commonly recognized and 'not completely established'. --Pjred (talk) 07:20, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Same question... I see that in the 2005 amendment to the Real Estate Act also Mäntsälä and Pornainen are included, making it 14 municipalities 130.233.136.69 (talk) 08:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)