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- If I posted something (other than a warning) to your talk page, I probably added it to my watch list. I would prefer replies in the same page as the original post. However, feel free to reply here if you want.
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[edit] RE: Autocast Article
I note that you have once again removed the entire External Links section from this article. Could you please clarify what kinds of external links *are* permissible in a Wikipedia Article, given that the Wikipedia article on Wikipedia itself contains a large number of external links? If the purpose of Wikipedia is to serve as a reference, surely an article on a subject which by definition is related to the conversion of text to speech using software, should reference examples of software for performing said conversion that falls within the definition and scope of the article?
May I humbly suggest that if discussion with other topic experts is required to -add- a link to Wikipedia under its guidelines, you might also consider discussing the deletion of all links with that same community, prior to taking unilateral action? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mlearning (talk • contribs) Mlearning.
- Listing examples of software does nothing but encourage spamming and violates WP:NOT a web directory. If you want to link to a web directory category (such as Dmoz) then that would be an acceptable link. Once articles start linking to individual software products, they accrue large lists over time.
- The article on Wikipedia itself has a large, yet apparently good list of external links. It links to Wikimedia Foundation pages, news and scholarly articles on the project. If somebody started adding a list of external links to similar projects, then those would be removed. --GraemeL (talk) 14:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Spamstar!
You may have gotten barnstars before, but how about:
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| Presented to GraemeL for diligence in fighting spam on Wikipedia. --AbsolutDan (talk) 03:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC) |
- Ooh, shiny thing! Thanks! --GraemeL (talk) 12:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Anytime! --AbsolutDan (talk) 05:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Link to blog in saarang article
Please read the discussion page of the article "saarang" for a note on the official blog. Please leave a reply there.
[edit] hi
why do u delete my link. its not spam. better than other url
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[edit] Pantone page
I am sorry for posting link multiple times. I did not see the talk notes until today. I think that the link I added was relevant, but I understand your concerns. Thanks.
[edit] Removal of list of chastity belt manufacturers
Hi - just to let you know, I reverted your edit that removed all the manufacturer links from Chastity belt - although people occasionally do add 'spam' links to this section, the collection of links there as a whole is a legitimate capturing of the current set of CB manufacturers so I don't think it constitutes 'spam' and I think has a legitimate place on Wiki - happy to discuss if you like --Mortice 23:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Links to manufacturers are commercial links and not appropriate in anything apart from articles on the individual companies. they serve as nothing more than promotion. If you can find a site that provides a directory of manufacturers, that would be a good alternative. --GraemeL (talk) 00:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Thanks, yes, after having consulted Wikipedia:External links I think you're right. And the other sites that the page links to all have references to the device manufactuers already --Mortice 21:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Robert Prechter
It's just a slight bit more subtle than the usual advert in Wikipedia, but may I ask you to look at Robert Prechter and the associated Socionomics. Bob's a stock-picker with a terrible record, and a glowing Wikipedia article (previously taken straight from his own web site). For some reason, I can't insert any documentation of his terrible stock picking record (from WSJ, Business Week, Esquire, etc., but they did let in the Fortune quote). Smallbones 19:27, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] PanoTools Group
PLEASE do not NOT remove the PanoTools group site link. This is the primary resource in the search engines and has been around since 2003. Why are your removing links to pages your not associated with? John Spikowski 00:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
The PanoTools group is not a commercial venture. Please refrain from remove our group link. John Spikowski 21:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I reverted your change as you added commercial links to the page. I've left the link to the panotools.info site in there now, but I removed the rest of the links again. I posted to the talk page explaining the policies that they violate. --GraemeL (talk) 21:32, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
You were warned by the wiki sysop "Roguegeek" not to change the PanoTools.Info link. Did you not read your own talk page. PanoTools is NOT a commercial venture but the PanoTools group site since 2003. I don't know how to make this any clearer to you. John Spikowski 02:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- PanoTools.Info is more a Scraper_site because it steals content from several sources like [1] or [2] removes all references and makes the author to "John Spikowski" the only person in the "PanoTools Group" [3] to generated money from AdSense. Roguegeek is not an Administrator as you may have already noticed. John Spikowski is playing this games already for 3 month now. Please help! --Wuz 16:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Looks like you are correct. The wiki on the .info site seems to be a copyright violation. As such, including it as an external link is against Wikipedia linking policy. I posted to the article talk page again with a warning that I will end up blocking people (I am a admin) if they continue to post the link without the copyright situation of the site's content being corrected.
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- I don't really see a problem with the advertising on the site as it does provide some good resources. The copyright situation is a problem though. --GraemeL (talk) 16:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Did you not read anything I wrote to you? I will take this up with Brion Vibber (head MediaWiki Developer) and see if he can get you to stop this unfair treatment. It is obvious that you favor NG (are you a member?) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by John Spikowski (talk • contribs) .
- I don't read the newsgroup and I haven't even used PanoTools in several years. All that I am concerned with is you attempting to use Wikipedia to promote your own web site. As you ignored my last warning, I have blocked you for 24 hours. Please do not add the link again after the block expires. --GraemeL (talk) 19:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
THANK YOU !!! - I will only add the simple PanoTools group site link. (unlink NG that has 4 but could reach all of them from their home page just like I do)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by John Spikowski (talk • contribs) .
- As you can easy check the .info site still violates the copyright [4] and [5]. This article is written by me and John simple removed the author. Just a link to GNU FDL doesn't help much. There is no page on the whole .info wiki that is not written by "John Spikowski" so this should make you wonder. I have no problem with AdSense but the content is simple stolen and he is not willing to give credit to the original author. Also the whole mailing list is not originally from his site. He copies the emails from the Yahoo website, removes all references to the original source and make them to appear from his site. Just compare [6] and [7]. Also the argument .info is older doesn't hold as a look on web.archive.org [8] shows. The first entries are from April 2001. I still strongly belief that Wikipedia should not support such behavior and directing users to this site. Sure you don't need to belief me but please ask John for some evidence (expect that he knows Brian and will call him which is a WP:PAIN and he used this also against me [9] (and I can still edit :)) and also with Qutezuce [10]) of his arguments (like the .org wiki is and illegal copy). If you really like to know what he did with the PanoTools the short summary at [11] may interest you. You can also read Johns version at [12] but again this is the version told by one person without any references. I hope you can put this long sad story to an end. Thx for your help. --Wuz 00:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 3RR
You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. Roguegeek (talk) 19:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- He's spamming his link and spamming is considered simple vandalism. Reverting vandalism is not subject to the 3RR. --GraemeL (talk) 19:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Scraper site
The copyright situation of panotools.info is still a problem on Panorama Tools. The situation doesn't change with adding one GFDL button as John Spikowski claims: "I have added the license to the footer as you have asked" is only half of the truth when we compare one article as an example: several editors edited [13] while User:John Spikowski seems to have managed all of this with one single update but forgot to mention the real contributors on [14]. The wiki at panotool.info doesn't reveal editors on the Recent Changes page. --Einemnet 23:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
If I understand correctly the GFDL requires to preserve the complete history (paragraph 2.I.). Furthermore John violates the copyright of all PanotoolsNG yahoo group mailing list members on panotools.info. He maintains an "archive" where he uses to comment, delete or strip down original posts to his liking and where he states that the author is a member of his "panotools group".
In fact this "archive" is mixed up of several lists without the possibility to tell which post origins from which list and without the possibility to reply to the original list (replies go to his list only). He is not even a member of the yahoo mailing list and he was banned from the list.
His own own contributions to his page are mostly limited to fighting against panotoolsNG and wild accusation that the list and the wiki had be stolen from him. If you are interested in the incidents which led to that situation, please read the panotools list history. This also sheds some light on Mr. Spikowski...
--Erik Krause 20:02, 25 November 2006 (UTC) (PanotoolsNG Mailing List moderator and panotools.org wiki sysop)
Erik and the other NG self appointed moderators for some reason have the notion that the PanoTools group is one person. There are over 100 members in the annoucement list and 22 new members on the forum we just got going after switching to this format. The site is getting 2000+ site visits a day and is the primary resource in the major search engines with over 25K pages indexed. (the NG group isn't even on the map)
Can you change the NG link to point to their group site (like the PanoTools link does) and remove all then un-needed others?
I have sent many e-mails to the NG moderators trying to come to some agreement so the fighting will stop but they only respond when 'on stage' here on the Wikipedia. I feel the NG moderator that post here should be ban till they stop all this nonsense. John Spikowski 22:33, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
The NG moderators are deleting the PanoTools group link again. Can you ban them for a while so they stop? John Spikowski 04:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Is there anything you can do to stop the NG moderators from removing the PanoTools link from the page? Any help would be apreciated. John Spikowski 19:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Thomas has broken the 3 revert rule and should be ban for 24 hours. Can you revert the page back to it's original state? Thanks ! John Spikowski 20:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I guess the PanoTools issue is solved for now see [15], Thx for your help! --Wuz 00:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] List of UML tools
Could we please discuss this at Talk:List_of_UML_tools#External_links instead of revert warring? --Ligulem 00:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- There is nothing to discuss. WP:NOT a web directory. A collection of external links is entirely inappropriate for a wikipedia article. Please don't add them again. --GraemeL (talk) 00:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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- I disagree. Please note that I'm an admin. So I suggest not using rollback, as my edit was not vandalism. --Ligulem 00:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Would you like to take this to dispute resolution then? Please suggest how to proceed as I disagree with your revert warring. --Ligulem 00:34, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Could you please respond to my post on Talk:List_of_UML_tools#External_links so we can keep the discussion in one place? --Ligulem 00:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] General question about external links in Category:Lists of software
Is it just by accident that you picked List of UML tools for your "removal of tools from lists rampage" (under the title "linkspam cleanup" [16], [17]) or are you planning to "clean up" the whole Category:Lists of software? Just looking up a couple of articles from said category shows for example List of Jabber client software, List of Jabber component software, List of Linux distributions, or List of download managers having entries with external links. What are your plans for the mentionend articles? Are you going to remove entries from those lists that have an external link as well? --Ligulem 13:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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In this case you should delete all backup software from the list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_backup_software
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[edit] Virtual_Tape_Library
Hi,
I am the one orignaly responsible for adding a list of vendors to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Tape_Library
I came in today because I had the other implementations of this type of technology and wanted to update the section accordingly. Also splitting it into sections and describing different types - software / hardware (as done in the iscsi section). Wanted to also have a further section that describes the types of features you can often expect in VTL.
Found however that you deleted the whole section. From your reference I think I understand the reason.
I wanted to do something simular to these two pages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iscsi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_backup_software
So the bit I am trying to get my head around is should those two above sections exist in the Wikipedia (iscsi page has an implementation/vendor list, list_of_backup_software is just that) or did I go about it the wrong way.
The reason I posted the stuff was I thought I was consistant with the Wikipedia. Reading the rules of what Wikipedia is not, now I am uncertain. I personally use the WP to find out what technologies do and find the references to 3rd party sites and vendors very useful. Used WP for iSCSI and when i looked at VTL there werent any so later after I did my own research I thought I would contribute to that page (obviously wrongly).
I guess understanding the nuances of what goes in and out would be helpful. ie how does the above two links differ to what ive done. Appart from the updates to that page there were some other sections but I dont want to waste our collective time but putting stuff in that needs to be removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Storageman (talk • contribs) 16:56, 13 December 2006 (UTC).
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I request that content of following pages be restored for temporary basis. I have some very important information that i compiled over last few months. I'll highly appreciate your assistance.
- India
- Australia
- Paintings
- others
- Chandigarh
Please send me an email when the pages are available so i can get the content. I promise i'll get rid of the pages immediately after. Also i apologize for ignorance.
Thanks, Sameer (sameer81@gmail.com)
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Dear Graeme
I have taken your name from the wikipedia list of people who might be able to get a deleted file back for me. If so I would be very grateful for your help as the two articles I seek were deleted without any discussion. Please could you see if you could obtain the written information on the following two people. Please could you contact me on "mytalk"
Ernest Henry Cooper (Wembley)
Henry Francis Cooper (Stonebridge Park)
John Langhorne (giggleswickschool)
I would be very grateful if you could help me with this
thanks
MJFC
[edit] New Social Networking Site
Hi,
I was hoping you could add our social networking site to your directory.
We recently launched one for the franchise industry.
I tried to add it but you deleted it (I wasn't familiar with how to use Wikipedia at the time).
I would truly appreciate this. I'm writing an article about our site right now.
Thanks for your time.
Sincerely yours,
Shawn Ames —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shawnborgia (talk • contribs) 08:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC).
[edit] New Social Networking Site
Hi,
I was hoping you could add our social networking site to your directory.
We recently launched one for the franchise industry.
I tried to add it but you deleted it (I wasn't familiar with how to use Wikipedia at the time).
I would truly appreciate this. I'm writing an article about our site right now. It is located at www.franchisecircle.com
Thanks for your time.
Sincerely yours,
Shawn Ames —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shawnborgia (talk • contribs) 08:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC).
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[edit] Stochastic Oscillator site
I rewrote the article to get rid of the copyright infringement. Could you remove the notice? [[18]]. THanks, Mrdthree 06:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
what are you talkin about
[edit] Virgie Arthur
Hi could you please put on the deleted article on Virgie Arthur again? i dont now if you can but i think its best to put it on again so people can discuss how they want to do with ti. because it was only 2 people discussing it before and decided to delete a fullworthy article.--Matrix17 14:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Baiyoke Building
Please check your facts first before reverting corrections. I corrected a link which was dead. As the building is a hotel it is bound to have some promotional aspect. The site http://www.baiyokehotel.com is the official site for the building
[edit] WP:SCOWNB Participants merger with WP:SCO
As I hope you may have seen I am attempting to tidy up WP:SCOWNB by removing old notices and the duplication that has emerged since the creation of WP:SCO. One of the latter issues is that there are lists of active Wikipedians on both locations which overlap to a significant degree. As WP:SCOWNB is ideally a place for announcements I am in process of merging the lists at WP:SCO and intend to remove the one at WP:SCOWNB when this is complete. However there are a fair number of Users not on both lists. If you do not wish to have you current WP:SCOWNB entry re-appear at WP:SCO please either let me know or edit the latter as appropriate. Thanks for your patience, and continuing support of matters relating to WikiProject Scotland. Ben MacDui (Talk) 17:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Request to Add Social Networking Site
Hi GramaeL,
I was hoping you could comment on my Talk page about a new social netorking site for franchising, and add it to your list of social networking sites.
Please see what you can do.
Thanks much!
Shawn —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shawnborgia (talk • contribs) 23:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] FranchiseCircle.com - Addition to List of Social Networks
Hi GramaeL,
I was hoping you could comment on my Talk page about a new social netorking site for franchising,Franchise Circle.com and add it to your list of social networking sites.
Please see what you can do.
Thanks much!
Shawn
Shawnborgia 23:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Deleted articles
Hey, I was just wondering whether you'd be able to send me a copy of two articles that have been deleted, they are 'Dozbag' and 'Lingy. If you could do that it would be just peachy. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mattperrin (talk • contribs) 10:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Link to relevant blog is permitted under the guidelines.
If you take the time to read the guidelines and the blog in question you will see that it is in fact relevant.
The blog is a collection of political reviews and analysis related to Ukraine. It is the sole purpose and content of the blog.
It most certainly does comply with the WIKI guidelines. I request that it be reinstated.
Wikipedia articles can include links to Web pages outside Wikipedia. Such pages could contain further research that is accurate and on-topic; information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks); or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article (such as reviews and interviews).
--What should be linked-- Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews —The preceding unsigned comment was added by UkraineToday (talk • contribs).
- Even if it's relevant - you are not allowed to link to it as it's owner. It's clear spam --TAG 02:45, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] help me please
I want to know exactly what i did wrong. I cannot edit pages because someone has been using the site before me and they were playing with the editing.
[edit] LOOKY HERE
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GEEKS!
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Hi GraemeL, as a WikiProject Scotland participant, please check out this this thread and consider adding the bot results page to your watchlist so we can manually update the New Articles page. There are some false results for the first batch, but I'm sure we can collectively tune the rules to improve the output.
If we get enough people watching the results page, we'll be cooking with gas as they say :) This looks like a great helper in finding new Scotland related material. Cheers. --Cactus.man ✍ 01:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm new on wikipedia. I try to contribute on various music articles, regarding the European dance music styles.
There is one specific guy with the IP 76.105.187.236 that reverted one of my contributions regarding the term "eurotrance", without any discussion. At the same time he called on the talk page the brits "Idiots", because of my contribution (The funny thing is that I'm not British...)
I saw that you are a moderator and I'm contacting you to point me other moderators specialised on music subjects, to talk about this problem.
If you can, please help me!
Thanks (Labrokratis 14:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC))
[edit] Your linkspam watchlist
I have twice added an entry to your list at User:GraemeL/Watchlist, and it has been twice removed by Will Beback, a friend of the alleged spammer. Perhaps you could take a look at the disputed links and offer your own opinion. --Marvin Diode 02:30, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'm curious how Marvin Diode knows who my friends are. As it happens, I've neither met nor spoken to user:Dking. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 03:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] RFID equipment vendors...
GraemeL,
I was looking for rfid equipment information and apparently you deleted it from the wiki post discussion. Is there any chance I can get you to repost it or send it to me? I am looking for a rfid cloner.
Thanks, Carl --Carltrimble 15:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] AfD nomination of Technical analysis software
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[edit] AfD nomination of Prussian Blue (duo)
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hey, i dont recall ever being on an albert einstein sight never mind removing stuff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.66.175.71 (talk) 13:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Mashups and enabling technologies
Hi GraemeL,
I've been researching some of the technologies behind mashups (which we love :-) ) and I noticed you made some early contributions on mashups.
There seems to be only a limitated explaination of the enabling technologies behind them. Where feeds are already available mashups can be created but only recently have some of the major players looked beyond simple screen scraping and into wrapping websites in order to create feeds where feeds don't currently exist.
I've drafted a Wiki on this which is posted on my user page and I'd greatly appreciate any and all help in beating it into shape.
Many thanks in advance.
Cadwellian (talk) 16:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Drinking Cricket
Hi - I posted an article called "Drinking Cricket" and got informed it would be deleted - which I queried on the talk page. The game is a valid game that is becoming more popular in the uk and I don't know why it has been deleted. I explained this on the talk page but I can not check to see if there has been a response as that has also been deleted! Can you help please? Thanks, Matt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattsvilleyaya (talk • contribs) 16:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
