Template talk:Grand Theft Auto

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[edit] Manhunt

Regarding its merit for inclusion, even though the game is set in GTA III canon, it isn't a driving and shooting game like the entire GTA series, existing as a title with a significantly different genre (a tactical stealth-based shooter, like the Metal Gear series), hence its removal from the template. Adding a "spin-off" section in the template just for the title may be a good idea, but I would like hear a few comments about this suggestion before going ahead. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 09:09, 14 July 2006 (UTC) ╫

Ok would be ok to put it under "Miscellaneous topics"? Its just that the template is used in the Manhunt article.
Seems reasonable to put the link in there for now; we'll see what the other editors think about it. In the meantime, I've given the mods and Manhunt their own section in the seriesbox. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 14:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC) ╫

[edit] "Eras"

What's up with the "eras" sections? it doesn't make sense to me --Philo 07:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The games are suppose to be separated by mini-series or canon. This setup makes it easy to categorize the game's designs and graphics, and universe. Also, given that it's still not clear if the GTA1, GTA2, and GTA III series of games are connected, it would be misleading to imply that all of them take place in the same universe by clumping all of the games together. Preferably, replacing "era" with "series" would be proper; I admit that the "era" naming is improper and self-invented. Until Rockstar begins producing each GTA game with different designs and canons, I don't this these sections are a problem. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 10:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC) ╫

[edit] Merging GTA and GTA2 series

Perhaps it'd be wise to merge GTA2 (and the GTA2 series section for that matter) with the GTA series section since 1) GTA2 wouldn't be by itself, and 2) Most fans and gamers see a distinct difference between the top-down games of GTA to GTA2 and that of GTA3 to VCS. If no one as any objections (and I don't forget), I'll be merging GTA2 into the GTA series. Gold Stur 03:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

While we're at it, consider merging all of the games into one dedicated navbox, similar to A Man In Pink's recommendation. That way, we won't have to deal with the problem of sorting by "eras" or "series." Other topics will have their own navboxes. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 10:39, 12 November 2006 (UTC) ╫
I'll be going ahead with this proposed configuration and by replacing this template with specialized versions in relevant article. There a few notable articles (Hot Coffee mod for example) that would be left out, but the relevant articles should cover for some of them. This template is becoming way to big to be easily readable, and I believe it's high time we split this chunk up. I'll started by creating {{Grand Theft Auto games}}, which will replace the template used in all GTA games. ╫ 25 ◀RingADing▶ 20:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC) ╫

[edit] New template proposal

I have designed a new template that could be used to replace the current one. Does everybody approve of it? (Please note that it is not final) Also feel free to revise it and post your changed version below. In case you are wondering, the main changes needed are:

  • To expand space at the left end of the left-most text and right end of right-most text.
  • To move the view - talk - edit bit onto the header.
gRand theft auto
GAMES   |   CHARACTERS   |   GANGS  |   SOUNDTRACKS  |   LOCATIONS   |   MEDIA
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If this is accepted, I would like it to be used for the other GTA templates too (characters, games, locations ect.) .:Alex:. 17:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Here's my template suggestion (moved from TF:GTA talk page to here, my comment is also there.) ●BillPP (talk|contribs) 01:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Just a note, as for the concerns on the navbox guide page in the CVG wikiproject about the show/hide function causing problems if not coded properly. I've avoided that issue by using Template:Navbox generic, which gets a lot of expert attention. ●BillPP (talk|contribs) 01:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Well my template is based off an existing template which originally had something like that underneath the header. I could re-add like that and see how it looks. .:Alex:. 15:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I have made some changes, I have added all of the categories into the one template. The links also no longer link to other templates, they instead link to the appropriate section on the Grand Theft Auto (series) page. Perhaps we could replace all of the templates with this one comprehensive template? If someone could fit in a working Show/Hide function, that would be great!
gRand theft auto
GAMES   |   CHARACTERS   |   GANGS  |   LOCATIONS  |   SOUNDTRACK   |   MEDIA
Games Grand Theft Auto - (Mission Packs) | GTA2
GTA III | Vice City | San Andreas | GTA Advance | Liberty City Stories | Vice City Stories
GTA IV
Protagonists Claude Speed | Tommy Vercetti | Carl Johnson | Mike | Toni Cipriani | Victor Vance
Niko Bellic
Characters Gangs
GTA III | Vice City | San Andreas | GTA Advance | Liberty City Stories | Vice City Stories
GTA IV
Locations Liberty City | Vice City | San Andreas (Los Santos - San Fierro - Las Venturas)
Carcer City
Soundtracks GTA2
GTA III | Vice City | San Andreas | Liberty City Stories | Vice City Stories
Other Media | Category
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.:Alex:. 17:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

The blue and purple text is difficult to see on the dark gray backgrounds. perhaps changing those to lighter grays? TH1RT3EN talkcontribs 00:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pricedown font

Just a concern, I haven't installed the Pricedown font and as it doesn't come with operating systems by default I'm sure most people visiting don't have the font. At the moment the "Grand Theft Auto" title on the template looks very strange (in helvetica). Personally I don't think the template should stay like this. here's what the image looks without the font (tinypic link). ●BillPP (talk|contribs) 23:36, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the pricedown font is unnecessary. TH1RT3EN talkcontribs 00:33, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Weird. I had changed it a little while ago so it would look fine on both machines with it installed and machine without it installed. Someone must have changed it... .:Alex:. 09:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think the font should be used. Most users don't have the font installed so for most users, it ends up looking like:
GRAND THEFT AUTO
That looks just terrible at that size. --Jtalledo (talk) 13:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Also, WP:MOSCOLOR says that specifying font families and absolute sizes should almost always be avoided. In this case, where the only reason size and font family is specified solely for decorational purposes, a specialized font is a bad idea. --Jtalledo (talk) 14:11, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Navbox colour overrides

We shouldn't be overriding the default colours without reason in the first place. Rather than fight over what colour to paint the bikeshed we should leave it the colour it was when we bought it. I'm planning on removing all colour overrides from this template as pointless. Chris Cunningham (talk) 18:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)