Talk:Gray Davis

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[edit] Prop 187

Davis's big moment was his refusal to support Prop 187. Interesting that this is not in the article.

[edit] Long Term?

.This states that Davis's term of office started in 1979. He did not serve 24 years as governor of California. Does the 1979 refer to something else, or should it be 1999, when his term as governor began? mal7798 07 October 2006, 03:21

[edit] "Liberal" tax and spend policies

Grey Davis was the most unpopular governor in California history,yet the article dose not go into any detail has to WHY he was so unpopular.My goal was to demostrate that it was his liberal "tax and spend" policies that so many Democrats adhere to that caused the people to rise up and kick him out of office. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flyingbryan (talk • contribs) .

Well, first I don't think you can claim he was the most unpopular, at least without citing a source for that. Second while it may be true that it was his "tax and spend" policies, you can't include this in the article without an accompanying citation. Otherwise its just your point of view. We strive hard to ensure that all Wikipedia articles maintain a neutral point of view. This is, of course, particularly difficult for contentious articles, which the ones on politicians tend to be. So its especially important to source specific viewpoints on people. Can you find a reliable source (i.e. a non-partisan one) that says it was Davies' "Liberal tax and spend policies" that caused the voters to recall Davies? If you can, then you can add the section to the article. Thanks, Gwernol 23:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Tone of article is not nuetral

This article has a somewhat hateful tone and presents non facts as such. It speaks in terms of unpopular and widespread, uses very critical commentary and in places un neccesary wording. This article has a political agenda and needs a good fact checking and citations.--Amadscientist 22:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Begining revision

I have begun overhauling this article to improve its headings, information, and content. I began overhauling Davis's early life and political career and I will continue to put more information in those sections. None of the more accepted as positive aspects of Davis tenure as Governor are mentioned such as his efforts in Education or the systemic causes of the energy crisis and budget crisis that can't be tagged on Gray Davis. I plan on revising the energy crisis section to simplify the jargon some. I will also work on adding citations and sources. I also plan on adding more about Davis trouble with his staff that was one of the problems with his administrations. These revisions are going to take some time so I ask that if you are editing this article, not to remove some of the new sections I have created. You can add and edit info, but please don't remove short sections until I am finished. == calbear22 13:23 July 22, 2007. (SPT)

[edit] Removal of unverifiable material

The following line was removed: "Davis was suspended twice from the California Bar Association for failure to pay membership fees." Such a claim must be sourced and it currently is not. I searched lexius nexus and the internet through google and could not verify this fact so I removed it. If someone can find a source, they should add it back to the article. == calbear22 14:08 July 23, 2007. (SPT)

"A year later he said, "Well, we'll wait a couple of years before we remove it." However, this never happened." Following line concerning MTBE also isn't sourced and was removed == calbear22 July 28, 2007.

[edit] Removal of information concerning Issa

The information concerning Issa was too detailed for an article about Gray Davis. It was moved to the article about the recall. User:calbear22

[edit] Removal of part of Recall section

Following line had bias and was removed: "In July 2003, his unpopularity became so great that a campaign to gather a sufficient number of citizen signatures for a recall election of Davis was successful."

There are many reasons Davis's opponents could collect enough signatures that go beyond his unpopularity. They include the low signature requirement for a recall, low turnout in the last governor's race further lowing the needed signatures, and Issa's money. These reasons are explained in much greater detail on the 2003 California Recall.

Following line was removed because it is unneccessary: "Although other California governors, including Edmund G. "Pat" Brown Sr., Ronald Reagan, Jerry Brown, and Pete Wilson, had faced recall attempts, none was successful at forcing a recall election." The names of these governors adds little to the article. It is excessive detail. I summarized this sentence in the article without listing the names. This information should be included in the Recall Election article, but we need to find a source for that to happen too User:calbear22 August 10, 2007.

[edit] calbear22 finishes major revisions

I have finished my work on this article. Because I provided sources, dramatically improved the content, and made the article more viewpoint nuetral, I removed the problem tags. During my last major revisions, I removed a little information from the Davis reelection section that just wasn't true, verifiable, or was overly simplified. I've added over one hundred sources to this article to support the articles content although some of the sources were added as external links that should be converted to references. Some of the information in this article was copied from the source http://www.biographybase.com/biography/Davis_Gray.htm. When I fact checked some of the numbers from that source, it revealed that some of the numbers and arguements were false. No information in this article is now supported only by this source. This article can probably use some work from another editor, but I'm done for now. calbear22 14:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed links

These links were removed because I believe they violate Wikipedia policy on copyright.User:calbear22 (talk) 07:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)