Talk:Grand Trunk Railway
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Just a small note: GTR was originally incorporated as the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada and was referred to as the Grand Trunk Railway of Canada for many years.
As for comments below regards Grand Trunk Eastern line Portland to Island Pond. GTE was a semi-official name (equipment was not so lettered) however, it was legally Grand Trunk Railway, not CNR nor GTW. Track into the US from Niagara Falls, Ontario was likewise Grand Trunk Railway, not CNR. Equipment was lettered Grand Trunk. At Sarnia, it was the St.Clair Tunnel Company that went into the US. At Windsor, a ferry service was operated into US.
R.L.Kennedy 04:55, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)R.L.Kennedy
OK - I like the "class 1" template that gets added to legitimate Canadian and US class 1 railways/railroads. I notice that the GTW is the only remnant of the GTR that is included as a "former US class 1" - correctly so.
Since the GTR system was merged into CNR in January 1923, and since the GTW *always* operated as a separate entity, the only portion of the actual GTR which operated in US territory was the Portland-Island Pond section of the Portland-Chicago network. GTW ran from the International Boundary at the tunnel at Port Huron, Michigan (actually this was technically operated by a GTR subsidiary, the St. Clair Tunnel Corp - or something like that), so GTR never actually operated in Michigan, Indiana, and Illinois, although the GTW did.
Now unless the GTR was actually classified as a US class 1 based on the Portland-Island Pond section it operated, just as its subsidiary GTW was classified as such for many years while continuing to operate as a CNR/CN subsidiary, (when did the class 1 designation start anyway?) then the GTR should not (IMHO) be included with the class 1 templates, either for Canada or the U.S. Would love to see further discussion on this. Cheers, Plasma east 02:24, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- All good points. I sit corrected. :) One quick item, Category:Defunct railroad companies of the United States is a subcategory of Category:Defunct railroads, so I've removed the parent category in favor of the more specific child category. I've also created Category:Defunct railroad companies of Canada for this and other roads that operated in Canada but are now fallen flags. slambo 02:56, Nov 19, 2004 (UTC)
personally i think the trivia section makes this article look unprofessional. consider moving the trivia about the grand trunk railroad name to the trivia section under the actual grand trunk railroad band.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.226.81 (talk • contribs) 21:46, April 1, 2007
- That would be inappropriate as the railway was not a derivative of the band. The band was from Michigan and took their name based on the railroad name. Besides that, the two subjects are completely different topics. 69.129.196.234 10:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC) -- This reply was added by me; my website cookie expired before I saved the comment. Slambo (Speak) 11:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
