Talk:Grand Ayatollah Abul-Qassim Khoei

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[edit] Requested move

Clergy of highest rank are named with their titles, see also the list of Popes for reference or Patriarchs. The Grand Ayatollah's are named with their title, this one seems to have been missed or forgotten... Gryffindor 22:51, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Oppose. More NPOV to have just the name. CDThieme 00:39, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Support because this follows the convention established for the Popes and therefore seems more appropriate. See also WP:NCI Stefán Ingi 13:27, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Considering User:CDThieme has been outed as a sockpuppet and left Wikipedia, does his vote still count? Gryffindor 12:07, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I think that despite his behaviour he should be allowed to vote once. Stefán Ingi 13:27, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Result

Moved. WhiteNight T | @ | C 23:00, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Facts not established - should not be part of Wikipedia

Following paragraph has information, which is not factually established. Thus, it should not be part of Wikipedia. Please see below.

His son Abdul Majid al-Khoei would later become a prominent Shia cleric who opposed the regime of Saddam Hussein. On April 10, 2003, having returned from exile in Britain to encourage guarded cooperation with the US occupation, he was killed near the Imam Ali Shrine in Najaf by what some people claim the Mehdi-Army which is lead by Muqtada Al-Sadr.

It has not been established that son of the Grand Ayatullah was killed by people loyal to Muqtada Al-Sadr. It is a rumour just like WMD in Iraq.

In the Shiite sect, sons of Grand Ayatullah do not become prominent Shia cleric, just because they are their son. He was a cleric with prominence because of him being son of a Grand Ayatullah. He was also not a prominent opposition to Saddam. Actually, he was in Iraq during part of 90's. It is a fact, he supported US invasion and occupation, in contrast to Grant Ayatullah Seestani.

Bottom line, in the section on Grand Ayatullah Khoei, there is no need for this paragraph as it does not throw any more light on the Grand Ayatullah.


[edit] REMOVE SECTION "HIS SONS" - FACTS NOT ESTABLISHED

The section "His Sons" does not add any facts in the encyclopedia. Alleged statements are NOT appropriate in an encyclopedia of Wikipedia's reputation. Also, in shia faith, being son of an Ayatollah does not deserve any mention. In the Shiite sect, sons of Grand Ayatullah do not become prominent Shia cleric, just because they are their son. He was a cleric with prominence because of him being son of a Grand Ayatullah. He was also not a prominent opposition to Saddam. Actually, he was in Iraq during part of 90's. It is a fact, he supported US invasion and occupation, in contrast to Grant Ayatullah Seestani. This world is filled with alleged statements. I am pretty sure, alleged statements against the sons of Ayatollah exist. This way you are opening door to major controversies. Remove this section.

[edit] Inaccuracy

Just thought I should point out, the article wrongly stated that his eldest son was sayed taqi al khoei. He also does not only have two sons.