Talk:Graeme Obree

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article must adhere to the policy on biographies of living persons. Controversial material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted or if there are other concerns relative to this policy, report it on the living persons biographies noticeboard.

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page.	Biography Portal
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale. [FAQ]
	This article is supported by the Sports and games work group.

	Cycling Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cycling. WikiProject Cycling is an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to cycling on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the discussion.
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the quality scale.

[edit] Scottish or English?

Can I ask how Graeme Obree is classed as a 'Scottish' cyclist if he was born in England? Douglasnicol 00:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

You can but having seen similar incorrect articles I doubt you'll get a reasoned answer in the positive. Like most things in Wikipedia once the nationalists get into their warped minds that someone is Scottish instead of British despite "Scottish" not being a recognised nationality by the UCI, the United Nations, the UK Government or the EU then an article will, if corrected to show the real state of affairs, be continually be reverted to support the nationalist way of thinking. Maybe Nuneaton, Warwickshire really is a suburb of Glasgow. :) M100 20:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

No offence but I take issue at the constant cries of 'petty nationalists'. Yes, I am Scots and proud to be one, but I've seen as much hypocrisy on the other side. For instance, the article on Andrea McLean was changed at one point taking out a bit about her accent, saying she wasn't Scottish and putting British in instead, yet similiar articles on people from England said only "X is an English news presenter/broadcaster/actor" whatever. I think both sides have plenty of blame. Douglasnicol 22:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

well, this BBC site article [1] begins "The career of Scotland's two-time...." The "Scottish" reference seems well-established and accepted for Obree.--Billymac00 (talk) 01:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

But it doesn't discuss Obree's nationality. For me British is a more accurate description. Severo^TC 16:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

because both his parents are scottish, and he has lived in scotland from a very young age. He was simply only born in England —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jupebox (talk • contribs) 16:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Sounds similiar to the Olivia Newton-John argument, born in the UK, but spent practically no time there.... Douglasnicol (talk) 00:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Washing Machine bearing

I know that he doesn't like being known as "The Washing Machine guy", but surely the fact that Obree used the bearing from an old machine in Old Faithful is worthy of a mention? http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotland/asportingnation/article/0037/index.shtml TrulyBlue 14:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)