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[edit] Discussion

Unless this article is expanded, explaining a history of Graduation, I feel that it should be move to the Wiktionary. Otherwise, this article seems to be listed in the stub directory. Allyunion 22:03, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I disagree. The article doesn't merely define the word, but goes into detail about graduation ceremony traditions. As such, it's a valid encyclopedic article, in my opinion. --Ilya 22:32, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I suggest then that other view points of graduation to be submitted. I know for a fact that the Japanese have a different way of graduating and their songs are different as well. But off hand, I'm not an expert in the matter so I can't say anything definite about Japanese style of graduation or any other culutre in fact. Additionally, maybe some notes how the whole graduation idea came about...??? - Allyunion 08:44, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Good idea. I made a start on this the other day by adding information about the practice of graduation in the United Kingdom. It would be very interesting to see how things are done in Japan and other places. Marnanel 13:43, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC):Added convocation and invocation as two related terms in the outline.(Linusjoseph 16:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
This is the silliest article I've seen. I agree about moving it to wiktionary. Who comes here and wants to know this much about "graduation"? Talking about large institutions holding several ceremonies at different sites? This is absurd. None of this information is relevant or noteworthy.24.136.36.187 21:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Outline Discussion

Rather than editing the article itself, I'm going to just draft an outline suggestion on changing this article to include the customs from other countries. (I used two countries just to show for example). Here I added some

Brief overview of graduation

[edit] Western Tradition

Mention briefly about robes, etc.

[edit] United States

Specific traditions in United States, maybe mention some historical quirks from various universities and various university traditional quirks. Mention about something about a traditional "Senior Prank" Perhaps include High School Graduation?

[edit] Particular Institutions

Dartmouth is said to have held its commencement ceremony on more consecutive occasions than any school in the U.S. Is this true? It has granted degrees each year since 1771, but were all granted at official ceremonies? Harvard, William & Mary, Penn, Columbia, Princeton, Brown, and Rutgers all closed during the Revolution or at some other time since, probably Yale too.

[edit] Usage of "graduation" for schools below high school

Though many junior high schools, middle schools and even elementary schools and preschools have so-called "graduation ceremonies", I'm certain that the use of "graduation" isn't technically correct in the US unless it describes finishing high school or higher institutions. Bubbha 09:56, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] United Kingdom

Specific differences between UK and US. Maybe how the ceremony is held?

[edit] Eastern Tradition

Mention briefly about Eastern tradition, include any influences brought about from Western culture

[edit] Japan

Mention about different ceremonial songs, etc

Not having been to Japan myself I don't feel qualified enough to add them in here, however I understand that Aogeba tōtoshi and Hotaru no hikari are both traditional graduation songs, and thus merit being mentioned here. Aidolon 04:19, 11 May 2007 (UTC)


Terms like "long-winded" for the principle's speech, or "rather stiff by western standards" don't really seem appropriate for an encyclopaedia. 8:17 PM 5/4/2008 - Ymirfrostgiant

[edit] China

Influences from Western culture, any historical view points of how scholars before modern day graduation was held???

- Allyunion 00:30, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

The External links section was tagged with {{Cleanup-spam}}. As a result, as part of WP:WPSPAM, I've reviewed the external links. In my opinion they contribute nothing to the article and they all appear to be either selling stuff or promoting stuff, hence I have removed all the external links. -- Rehnn83 Talk 09:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] This is slightly wrong

"the University of Wales hold their graduation ceremonies almost entirely in the Welsh language, even though few students understand either of these languages" - this should be changed so that it says that only Welsh Speakers understand most of the congregations of a graduation. This is just another blatant attack on the Welsh language.Amlder20 17:34, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Well spotted; fixed. (You know this is a wiki and you can change it yourself, too, of course.) Marnanel 23:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SPAM

Would a knowledgeable editor please assist here:

  1. (cur) (last) 18:47, March 12, 2007 66.114.46.247 (Talk) (undo)
  2. (cur) (last) 23:19, February 28, 2007 211.125.175.193 (Talk) (undo)

In between these two edits a prominent advertisement for www.graduationtickets.com appeared in the article, yet the history will not identify that edit. The history appears to be incomplete. Could we please remove the spam and figure out what happened here? Miqrogroove (talk) 02:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


It was added in the March 12 edit. [1]. Its gone now. Thanks.Montco (talk) 03:20, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is the graduation ceremony mandatory?

I've met a few university/college students in my country who would rather skip the graduation ceremony if possible, but had to go through with it in order to receive their degrees. Some of them disliked the formalist nature of the whole affair, some had other obligations and would rather not stay a month just for a glorified party, and others still simply hadn't made that many friends through college and didn't want to be that lonely person who is only applauded by their family. Is it the same way over in the States and Western Europe, or are you given the ability to simply get the degree you earned without sitting through contrived speeches and insincere frat-boy pats in the back? 87.101.51.85 (talk) 00:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Its certainly not mandatory at my university (SUNY at Buffalo), though there are some awards which can be recieved only if you attend. I'm not sure, though, if thats typical of American universities in general or not - the fact that mine is quite large may also have an effect on their policy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.205.101.232 (talk) 01:46, 10 May 2008 (UTC)