Talk:Gracie Allen

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This article has been revised many times, but the quality notice keeps reappearing. Would whoever is putting it back please specify which section or sections are in need of "cleaning up"? I have read many less scholarly entries on Wikipedia which are not marked as needing editing. Specific feedback would be helpful here.

I'm not sure when the preceding comment is from, but I tend to agree with what is stated. The article has clear formation and referrences and uses correct grammar and sequence. The tone is not discordant. Im not sure what's being looked for here. I'm not the author, so objectively I feel this article is an asset. A better understanding of what may be lacking should be expressed so it's not a guessing game. TFBCT1 (talk) 11:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I kinda doubt color tv had anything to do with her heterochromia-shame. As you can see from the picture in this article, it's clearly obvious her irides are two different colors even in black-and-white.

Color TV probably didn't, because she was very retired by the time it began to become popular, but according to several of George Burns's books she wasn't bothered by it on TV mainly because it was in black and white. --Dan Moore 23:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

1 Famous Closing
2 Family Section: Ronnie and Sandra
3 Year of birth
4 Really a boy?
5 Gracie Allen Awards Merge Proposal
6 The
7 Nonsense
8 PD Photo

[edit] Famous Closing

The "Good night, Gracie" legend refuses to die. I have corrected this several times, with some kind soul(s) coming in and "correcting" me every time. Prior to this most recent correction of the facts I watched more than fifty episodes of the Burns & Allen Show on video and DVD. The episodes were from a five-year period, and included both film and kinescope sources. The only episode which deviated from the norm ("Say good night, Gracie." "Good night.") was the January 29, 1953 episode which I quoted in the article. I also refer to specific, published references to back me up. Now that a large number of episodes are commercially available, I hope skeptics will watch for themselves instead of relying on faulty memories of the show. --Fshepinc 08:53, 16 June 2006

I back up this editor, George Burns said the same thing in his biography "Gracie a Love Story" about his wife. He claims they only did it once if ever, but he didn't even remember that, and that they didn't do it largely because nobody thought to do it. 216.201.48.26 (talk) 20:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Family Section: Ronnie and Sandra

In the section on "Family" the article states that Ronnie and Sandy played their famous parents in a skit on the Burns and Allen Television program. While it is true that Ronnie played his father in the skit, Sandra was not the young woman who played Gracie. Sandy was on the show several times, often as the voice of an operator on the telephone. --Sarty 05:56, 15 January 2006 (UTC)Sarty

[edit] Year of birth

I have some strong evidence that she was born in 1895. The all-girls she want to (Star of the Sea in San Francisco) had her in the first graduating class, in 1909. Obviously, she could not have graduated at age 6.--Fallout boy 11:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

This mostly agrees with (or at least doesn't significantly contradict) her appearance on the 1900 and 1910 censuses (1900: Assembly District 30, San Francisco, San Francisco County, California [microfilm Series T623, Roll 101, Page 36/Sheet 11A]; 1910: Assembly District 39, San Francisco, San Francisco County, California [microfilm Series T624, Roll 100, Page 145]). In 1900, her month of birth is July, but the year and her age are illegible. In 1910, her age is given as 13. This suggests that her year of birth was 1896 (the census was taken in April), but in any case, it wasn't 1902. Ardric47 04:29, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Although the year of Gracie's birth is illegible in the microfilm of the 1900 U.S. Census, the Soundex index card of that listing, transcribed directly from the paper original of the census schedule, clearly says Grace Allen was born in 1895. — Walloon 09:33, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I went to Star of the Sea Academy in San Francisco and used to walk by the alumni photos everyday. Gracie Allen was part of the first graduating class of SSA in 1914. So a birth year of 1895 would make the most sense because she would've been an 18 year old high school graduate in June 1914. As a sidenote, Star was coed when Gracie attended. It didn't become an all-girl school until a few years later. User:71.146.91.13|71.146.91.13]] 09:06, 30 December 2006 (UTC)ms

[edit] Really a boy?

What does it mean "Gracie Allen was educated at the Star of the Sea Convent School as a girl"?

Is it trying to say this is a girls' school? Why is that phrase even in there?

To the author of the above comment:

"as a girl" is the same as saying "as a child," basically saying when she was younger.

JaeRae 10:40, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gracie Allen Awards Merge Proposal

I would oppose merging these articles. I think the Gracie Allen Awards is notable enough to have it's own article. I would suggest an expansion of the Gracie Allen Awards article. James084 21:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The

fact that gracie had once been disambiguation, &, is no more, is offensive, absurd.

Thank You.

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[edit] Nonsense

"One of the show's running gags (both in radio and television) had Burns firing the announcer at least once every other episode."

I've listened to more than 50 WWII-era episodes and this never happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Z1perlster (talk • contribs) 03:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)