Talk:GPS wildlife tracking
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[edit] Random Projects?
Why add a banner for a project when the article is NOT part of that project, has NOT seen any meaningful contribution by a member of that project or the "adopting" editor is NOT even listed as a participant in that project? -- Steelwool (talk) 22:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- You seem to misunderstand the placing of a project banner on an article. An article is added to a project by placing the banner. It does not have to have a contribution by a member of the project before it is added, nor does any editor on the article have to be a participant in the project. It simply means that the article falls within the scope of the project, that editors may be able to get help (if needed) from the project, and let's participants within the project find articles that fall within the project scopes. Many articles have not been bannered by their appropriate projects yet, and many times editors working on articles don't realize there are projects that the article could fit in and so neglect to add the banner. This article's topic falls into the realm of those two projects, hence those banners being added. Wildlife trackers are electronic items, hence their going in that project. As Wildlife tracking related to wildlife and conservation, which falls under the Environmental project, it makes sense to add it to that project. Collectonian (talk) 23:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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- No, I don't and, nope, I disagree! :c) This is likely true in cases where the project banner is couched in terms of articles being "within the scope" of a project but this is clearly not the case here. The WikiProject Electronics banner quite clearly states "this article is part of WikiProject Electronics" and, according to the project page - here, to be precise - usage of the project notice is reserved for "any article that has been edited as part of this WikiProject". Furthermore and quite fundamentally, the subject of the article is "GPS Wildlife Tracking" which is the process of using GPS to monitor animal movements for the purposes of management or behavioural biology and not a specific electronic device. The Electronics project should only really be interested in the GPS Receiver...which I'm relieved to report it is already!
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- While I agree that adding project banners might aid project editors, I'm not convinced that an article need be part of a project to be effective nor that there is any benefit in adding an article to more than one project, particularly as projects may have conflicting aims or styles. How about we declare a draw and I scratch out only the Electronics project? Steelwool (talk) 22:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
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- You don't get to decide that you don't like the projects that an article falls under nor do you get to remove the banners just because you disagree with the idea of projects. Projects are a part of Wikipedia and they are beneficial. Having an article as part of multiple projects is not that unusual, and only rarely are their issues with conflicting aims or styles, as the project editors know that most articles have a "primary" project the article falls under so that is the one whose styles/aims are used. You seem to have a bad understanding of how projects work, perhaps because you are relatively new to Wikipedia (at least, according to your contribs). Unless the project itself says the article doesn't fall under its scope, do NOT remove the banners again. Electronics does not just include electronic items, but use of electronics which this would fall under. Collectonian (talk) 23:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
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- I don't get to decide but you do? I would dispute that I have a "bad understanding" of projects - I have an interpretation which is shaped by the published guidelines and am simply restating issues identified here by others with similar concerns. Steelwool (talk) 01:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Neither of those have anything to do with this discussion. GPA wildlife tracking clearly falls under the stated scope of electronics, which includes the use of electronics. Collectonian (talk) 01:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Proposed merge of GPS Wildlife Tracking with GPS tracking
I believe there is a substantive difference between GPS Tracking and GPS Wildlife Tracking which, as a process, is a branch of environmental biology and potentially conservation management. Should any merge be deemed necessary, I feel it should be into an article on Wildlife Telemetry or Animal Telemetry in general. Steelwool (talk) 05:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)