Talk:Governor's Schools (Virginia)

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[edit] Summer Language Academies

I changed the piece on the smallest Academy, as that is the Russian Academy. Primarily for tradition, and for the sake of "closeness", the Russian Academy accepts only 38 students, when it can have up to 50.

Also changed the length of time from "last four weeks" to "last up to four weeks" as the Language acaemies are really there only for just over three weeks (At one point the language academies were over 6 weeks, but due to cost cutting, it was shortened).

I have also added a link to the language Academies website as it can very hard to find.

I attended the Russian Academy in the summer of 2005, so if you need an "insider's perspective" to the language academies, feel free to drop a line.

Zidel333 23:21, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Already Article For Language

There is a completly seperate article for the Foriegn Language Academies; under Virginia's Governor's Foreign Language Academies. After I wrote the section on Foriegn Language in the general Governor's Schools (Virginia) article, I found it, but realized that everything I wrote was for all intensive purposes in their article. Anyway, possible merger? Something? Zidel333 03:24, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I did a little digging, and it appears that the Foreign Language Academies are not under the Governor's Schools Program umbrella . . . they're a completely separate program run by the Department of Education. As such, I've removed all content regarding them from this page and have instead linked to the specific page dedicated to the Academies. Some of the information that was on this page previously has now been incorporated into the dedicated Academies page. Jkatzen 09:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... I attended the Russian Academy, the schools are accredited by the Virginia Department of Education, who run the summer programs. This is the same Virginia Department of Education who accredit the all year Governor's Schools, such as the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology. (In short, there is the same oversight in schools, and summer programs). As such, I believe they are run the same way as the full length schools, and they are all under the same "umbrella". I honestly believe that all the programs should be under the Governor's Schools Article.

Please cite where you learned this.

Zidel333 00:24, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the Governor's Foreign Language Academies are accredited by the same Virginia Department of Education that runs the Governor's Schools. This is also the same VDoE that accredits high schools such as Mills Godwin in Henrico County and Albemarle in the county of the same name. By the same token, just because TJ is a Governor's School doesn't mean Godwin and Albemarle are (even though they're accredited by the same group). It's very difficult to cite a vacuum; but I can't find any support on the VDoE web site for the Academies being part of the VGSP. http://www.pen.k12.va.us/VDOE/Instruction/Govschools On the other hand, the Academies have a separate web site that makes no mention of the Governor's Schools. http://www.pen.k12.va.us/VDOE/Instruction/Language/GAindex.html. However, because there may be some difficulty in locating one given the other, I have added cross-links in the "See also" sections of each. Jkatzen 06:41, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I fail to understand your logic. Given if you cannot properly cite this, I believe the articles should be reverted to as before.

I'm going to try and call VDOE this afternoon, and see if anyone can actually clear this up.

Zidel333 17:44, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Um, pardon me? What logic is there to not understand? They're two separate programs, and what I've cited for you makes no mention of them being the same. Thus, by implication, they are different. What have *you* cited to suggest they're connected? If you can show me much of anything semi-official that would indicate their connection, it would satisfy me, and I'd look into combining the articles again. If you diagram out what you had said (if VDOE controls GSP, and VDOE controls Academies, then GSP & Acadamies are the same program), you were noting that because A controls B, and A controls C, therefore B and C are the same program. This is the same flawed parallel logic I used in my response (VDOE controls Godwin, VDOE controls TJ, therefore TJ and Godwin are the same program). Jkatzen 09:11, 29 March 2006 (UTC)