Talk:Government of Hong Kong

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Contents 1 Move request 1.1 Original request 1.2 Discussion 1.3 Outcome 2 Archive of WP:RFD discussion 3 Move request 3.1 Discussion

[edit] Move request

[edit] Original request

Should this article be renamed Hong Kong Government? That's the short form actually used. — Instantnood 06:22, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

no, keep consistency with other articles. "Government of Country" and "Foo of Country". Tobias Conradi (Talk) 19:33, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Those are topical articles about countries, this article is not. — Instantnood 20:33, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

and this leads to the conclusion to not use same-structure article names? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 12:02, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Hmm.. they're not actually referring to exactly the same thing, despite the same words. The government of the United States and government of France articles are topical that talk about all three branches of government, while this article specifically talks about the executive organ, which is parallel to examples such as Scottish Executive, Government of Sweden or Government of the United Kingdom. — Instantnood 12:54, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

This should be changed. Are you english native? What would you suggest for the whole cat. I would not like to rely on subtle differences like "G o HK" vs "HK G". It seems as if the 3-branch-article GoHK is missing? Topical articles seem to be needed to me, is there a better (more neutral) wording than GoFoo for them? Or do you have a solution how to call the executive branches? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 20:08, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

The topical government of Foo article is missing for many countries, usually redirected and covered by the politics of Foo article. There's no easy solution since the English word government possesses slightly different and closely related meanings, and it is what the executive organs are officially called in some countries. Unlike languages like German that have different words (Regierung and Staatsgewalt) for different meanings, there's only one word in English. — Instantnood 20:29, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

and the US usage of "Administration" does not make things much better. How about all topical to GoFoo? Then the current HK should be moved. Which Blabla by country cat would it go to (if it is a country at all, but I don't want to go into that discusion)? What to do with SE (sweden) and UK? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 09:10, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Topical "government of Foo" articles only exist for a few countries. For most countries it's covered by the "politics of Foo" articles. Don't think there's a general rule to title the articles on the executive organs of other countries, since that depends on how those countries named their executive organs, e.g. "Government of Foo", "Fooian Government", "Fooian Executive", etc. As for category, category:government of Scotland and category:Scottish Executive is a good example to follow. — Instantnood 11:24, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Outcome

The page was not moved, due to a lack of consensus. Rob Church ^Talk 07:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Archive of WP:RFD discussion

The Hong Kong Government → Government of Hong Kong redirect was nominated for deletion at WP:RFD. The result of the discussion was to keep the redirect. The discussion is being archived here at the redirect target's talk page as per RFD policy. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 11:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

• Hong Kong Government → Government of Hong Kong — no objection at talk:Government of Hong Kong to move from the latter to the former. Has been listed on WP:RM. — Instantnood 17:53, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
  • No objection at talk:Government of Hong Kong ??? Come on !!! There was no support to move, either. The "request to move" was closed last month due to a lack of consensus. The redirect should stay till there is a consensus to move. --PFHLai 16:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Delete the redirect when the page is moved. There's no reason to delete it in advance. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 22:08, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

The official title is "Government of the Hong Kong Special Adminsitrative Region of the People's Republic of China", and it refers only to the executive branch, which officially used short name is "Hong Kong Government". The "government of Hong Kong" article should be a topical article, like that of the US, France, Japan for instance. — Instantnood 09:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)