Talk:Gotthard Road Tunnel
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No, it's not the worlds longest road tunnel! The Lærdal Tunnel (Lærdalstunnelen), opened in 2000 is longer with its 24505 meters. --ZorroIII 16:50, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)
- The St Gotthard Tunnel is not the longest road tunnel. However, there is little doubt that it qualifies as the longest motorway/expressway tunnel. Despite no central reservation, all road maps still show it as part of a motorway. This may be the defining difference. --DF08 09:31, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Maybe the article text should be changed to reflect that it's the longest motorway/expressway tunnel? --ZorroIII 20:49, 2004 Dec 20 (UTC)
- The article states Traffic flows through only one tunnel, which carries traffic both ways, with each direction allocated only one lane. This is exactly the same as for The Lærdal Tunnel (on European route E16), so I don't think this reservation about expressway gets you anywhere, since E16 is just as much an expressway. So St. Gotthard is the second longest, any way you look at it. Sorry. -- Egil 20:24, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- The claim is still valid (to some extents) if you look at it on a map. Swiss maps show the tunnel as an expressway (with or without central reservation, it's in red-and-orange, whereas normal routes are cinnamon, yellow or white). --DF08 05:53, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- So St. Gotthard is the worlds longest tunnel that appear in red-and-orange on Swiss maps. Excellent. (If it was a full four-lane tunnel I guess there could have been a point. A two-lane defined as an expressway seems far too moot). -- Egil 08:18, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Some maps in the 1990s show it green-and-white, so that claim (red-and-orange), too, is refutable. ;-) Before this becomes an article about whether it's the longest expressway tunnel by colour coding, or if it's the longest expressway tunnel, period, consider this. The authorities rate the road an expressway with no central reservation (Autostrasse), so it's gotta be using the Autostrasse traffic sign. Now whether an Autostrasse is an expressway is a different matter. Better to put it as "the longest expressway tunnel in the world according to the local definition of "expressway"." I've been through the tunnel; it didn't feel like an expressway tunnel at all. Most Swiss non-expressways out of localities go at 80 km/h; ditto with St Gotthard. --DF08 12:44, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- So St. Gotthard is the worlds longest tunnel that appear in red-and-orange on Swiss maps. Excellent. (If it was a full four-lane tunnel I guess there could have been a point. A two-lane defined as an expressway seems far too moot). -- Egil 08:18, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- The claim is still valid (to some extents) if you look at it on a map. Swiss maps show the tunnel as an expressway (with or without central reservation, it's in red-and-orange, whereas normal routes are cinnamon, yellow or white). --DF08 05:53, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- The article states Traffic flows through only one tunnel, which carries traffic both ways, with each direction allocated only one lane. This is exactly the same as for The Lærdal Tunnel (on European route E16), so I don't think this reservation about expressway gets you anywhere, since E16 is just as much an expressway. So St. Gotthard is the second longest, any way you look at it. Sorry. -- Egil 20:24, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Maybe the article text should be changed to reflect that it's the longest motorway/expressway tunnel? --ZorroIII 20:49, 2004 Dec 20 (UTC)
[edit] Second tunnel
Someone just erased "Second tube planned" for the Gotthard Road Tunnel on the List of tunnels by length. How are the plans going for a second parallell road tunnel ? There should be something written even if it is postponed without a time plan. BIL 14:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Long and short routes
The road taken on that expressway is actually longer than the direct route through the St. Gotthard tunnel. This may or may not be true, but certainly without stating from where to where you are going it doesn't make any sense at all.Nico b. 09:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
