Talk:Gossip Girl
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[edit] Spoilers
This article is so full of spoilers it's unreal. Characters, summaries of each book. There should be no plot information in the characters section. And the main plot of each book should be taken out and put into said section. The summary, that is the paragraph preceding the title should have only general information about the book and a mere outline perhaps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.137.67.222 (talk) 11:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] September 2006
Okay, so first I slightly rearranged the talk page so the most recent edits are at top. I didn't alter anyone's posts; I just thought it'd be easier to keep track of what's new here. This article needs ridiculous amounts of work, and I'm definitely not the one to do it, but I'm trying to at least get it in-shape enough that it meets some of Wikipedia's quality standards. The only edits I've made beside adding two tags are as follows:
- I've removed the line "Contains plot spoilers!!!!" and replaced it with a more professional, encyclopedic spoiler/endspoiler template.
- I've removed the line "They rule the school" because it's clearly not NPOV, and it just doesn't sound encyclopedic. If it's a tag-line for the series, someone can put it back up there, but it would be best if you were to indicate that it is, in fact, some sort of "official" tagline and not just your personal opinion.
This article needs much more work, especially with its tone/language and POV issues. I've never read these books, nor do I have any desire to; therefore, I don't believe I'm the one to work on this article. I'm almost wondering if we need to put some sort official editing hold on this thing while someone works on it, because it seems to come under frequent attack by vandals and hoaxers, whether they know they're vandalizing or not. Opinions?TheTomato 22:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] More cleanup
I removed most of the POV and non-encyclopedic tone from the article. Please, if you have read the books, review the current material and make sure I haven't accidentally strayed from the facts. Thanks -Harmil 20:32, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I've just read this article because I wanted to write a French article about Gossip Girl... At first, I juste intended to translate it in French (which I did), but I also edited this one because there were so many typing mistakes... --172.210.135.58 20:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cleanup
I've again removed the following sentence (presented as a separate paragraph): “The first book of the series includes a famous quote by (sic) Oscar Wilde: Scandal is gossip made tedious by morality.“ No information is given as to where the quotation appears (in the text? as an epigraph?), nor as to its rôle or significance in the book.
It's not clear to me why a quotation included in one of the books should be held to be so important as to demand its own paragraph, or even to be included at all. It's not something that one would normally find in an entry like this. If for some reason it has to be included, it should be merged with one of the existing paragraphs — and could some explanation be given? Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:24, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I support the inclusion of the quote. Everyking 12:13, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- But why? What does it tell us? Many books contain quotations; the pages on them don't bother to say so, because it's a minor detail. What's the point here? I've explained my reasons for removing it; if you have reasons for putting it in, please give them.. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 19:13, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- It seems to me like good information. Everyking 19:21, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- I'm not sure what you mean by 'good' here. It tells us what Wilde said (which I suppose is good, though would be better on the Wilde page), but nothing useful or interesting about the book. (My suspicion was that it was included in order to give some respectability to what seem, from the article, to be pretty light-weight, not to say trashy, novels. But that opinion is based on very little, and is irrelevant to Wikipedia.) If you really think that it belongs here, I suppose that I'm not so much against it that it's worth a long debate — but it does surely need some more information (as I mentioned above). I'm damned if I'm reading the books in order to find out, though... Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:16, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- I don't know, I might not mind reading them, they do sound kinda hot. Anyway, the article is short and it's better to overinform than underinform. And presumably the quote reflects on the content of the books, which would help enlighten the reader. Everyking 23:40, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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- I've tried to put the quotation back, but more informatively. Can you think of a way to improve it? I can't seem to get it right. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:02, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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Damn, this article needs ALOT of attention. Has any body read this recently?--71.116.65.241 21:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I put Two Tag's On this baby--Maliki 786 21:56, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Page to be Reworked?
I have some experience with this series - I'm not a devotee - and I see how much work needs to be done here. Would anyone mind if I made some edits to the structure of this? There appears to be quite a few articles devoted to in-depth character descriptions, so it might be appropriate to use this article to give brief overviews of each character, rather than the several-paragraph-breakdown there is now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.196.222.62 (talk) 21:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC).
- It appears you have made some rather nice edits. I'm only puzzled why you removed citations. Let me guess they made the article bulkier and you are correctly trying to improve the article. Therefore I added a "References" section at the bottom and the coding needed to make the references appear in that section. Hope this is to your liking, while it satisfies wiki policy to provide citations. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling 00:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help, the change in organization you've made looks great! Would you support me continuing the edits for the rest of the character descriptions? (That is, reworking each character article and transferring the bulk of the character descriptions on this page to the character pages?) It's a big task, and I just hope that it's improving, not merely confusing, the set-up of these articles...
[edit] Character Descriptions
I've been trying to move more specific descriptions and relatively minor events to the character pages, but I've noticed that several people continue to write details into this overview character page. What are the thoughts on this? I would think that this page would be a place for general character overviews, with detailed info elsewhere, but I might be in the minority. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.196.222.62 (talk) 03:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Nate Archibald
Links to the real Nate Archibald, 59 year old ex-basketball star... if he's hanging out with a bunch of teens in a fictional NYC setting, that could present a very creepy drama series...
[edit] aww
this is soooo sad!!! i can't believe that the series is acctually over!!! :( aww... well i hope that the show is good... but some of the actors/actress aren't right for the role they are supposed to play. well thats just what i think... well i find the fact that the series is over completly and utterly depressing... so thats all i have to say.
- This is not a forum for idle talk, but rather, a place for discussion to improve the Gossip Girl article. Thank you — « hippi ippi » 14:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Also, please sign your posts with four tildes ("~~~~") so we know who you are. Thanks. Miggyb 20:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Gossip Girls" Article
This might be the wrong page to request it but could someone add one of those
"This article is about the ______. For the book, see Gossip Girl (novel). For the television series, see Gossip Girl (TV series)."
onto the top of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip_Girls because I just typed in gossip girls in the search and I ended up at that page. It took me a few more tries to realized it is Gossip Girl without the "s". And as I can't seem to figure out how to add that tag could someone more experenced do it, incase other people get confused when they go to/search for "gossip girls". 64.203.19.96 (talk) 11:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)