Talk:Goshen, Indiana
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[edit] Austin Sellers
Who is Austin Sellers? I am a native-born Goshenite, though I haven't lived there since 1998, and I have never heard of this person. Of course, I would have been 15 when he was born.
- I went to high school with Austin, although I do not know much about him. We didn't frequent the same circles.--216.117.2.1 15:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] North side of the city
I re-inserted information about the north side of the city having much of Goshen's crime and where many of the poor and disadvantaged live. I know, because I was born there and lived there until I left in 1994. I also made the statements about the Latino immigration into Goshen more generalised.--MarshallStack 06:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
And have restored it again. Why hide it? It's a fact of life of living in Goshen.--MarshallStack 06:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I was born in 1941 at Goshen hospital, then located on 5th Street and raised in Goshen. The north side is definitely less advantaged these days, but it's also true that recent up-scale subdivisions in the county are on the north side of town as is Maple Crest Country Club. Several elegant homes on north Main Street give witness that once elegant living graced the northside. The Armstrong house, for example, was the residence of John Armstrong, the president of Standard Oil of Indiana before World War II. In those days, Goshen was known as a "white gloves and spats" town. -Michael E. Moriarty, February 15, 2007.
I was born in 1966 at the current site of the Goshen Hospital, though it was much smaller then. When I was growing up in Goshen on Middlebury Street and attending Chamberlain School, the Maplecrest area was not considered part of the "north side"; at that time I don't think it was even in the city limits. I do, of course, remember the large Abshire house on the North Main Street hill, though; it always seemed an anomaly considering that much of the area surrounding it was quite hardscrabble. I remember the north side as always being the "wrong side of the tracks."--MarshallStack 06:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
MarshallStack is correct. I lived on the North Side and attended Chamberlain School from 1942 (second grade) through 1947 (sixth grade), and there is no question that "north of the New York Central" was decidedly downscale. The Abshire House was indeed an anomaly, and the Maple Crest Country Club did not even exist. The Goshen Hospital on N. 5th Street was actually just south of the tracks, and does not count as "on the north side." It may be worth pointing out that the "disadvantaged" population, like that of all the rest of the city at the time, was entirely white (and non-Hispanic). That can probably be shown from census records, but I'm not sure I can locate verifiable documentation for my theory that these people, like my own family, were largely farmers displaced by the Depression who moved into the city to get jobs in the burgeoning factory district. Garber 08:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I added information about the National Register Historic District, to help provide sourcing for MarshallStack's unsourced opinion that the area south of Lincoln Avenue (according to the National Register, Pike Street and the railroad bounds the historic district to the north) is "considered the old money area" of the city. That comment should perhaps be changed to something that is less OR and more NPOV.Garber 20:38, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rated
I rated the article as Start on the Quality scale based on the need for more information in the article and Mid on the Importance scale based on the population of ~30,000. I've got some good college friends who came from Goshen, so I'd love to see this article become the best it can be. -Tjkiesel 13:05, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
