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[edit] Jewish origin of Gordon - contested

[added December 23, 2007]
I searched google for 'gordon jewish surname', and came up with a New York Times article from August 29, 1905 entitled 'The Jewish Name "Gordon."'

In in an 'expert', Mr. Gordon the 'Jewish Kipling' states that would warn a genealogist "against the common error, which by the philological process of metastasis, derives the name from the Russian town of Grodno, the derivative of which is not Gordon, but Grodner, or Gradner, a name borne by numerous Jewish families"

Another corespondant, Salmon Gordon tells a story in the article of a Scottish Gordon marrying a jew and eloping to Poland.

Regardless, the connection to Grodno should be eliminated, or marked contested.


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Updated - We have a family legend that a Scottish servant named Gordon accompanied Scottish warriors. These warriors were hired by Germans to fight their wars. The Scots were rewarded for fighting by being given land and serfs so the presence of Scottish servants with Jewish serfs was a given. The servant ended up marrying one of the Jewish serfs ScrollMaker (talk)


[edit] Story of 124.176.168.236's Life

my great grandparents were Charlie and Jessie Robinson. Charlie was born in 1902 the son of a rail road worker. Jessie was born in 1906. They were married in 1925 and Charlie worked as a train driver.36

Thier son Leslie was born in 1927 and their daughter Marjorie was born four years later in 1931.

Charlie continued to work for the railways until his retirerment in 1966.

His son, my grandad, Leslie married Joan Peters in 1958. Both had been married before and joan  had a daughter called Patricia who was born in 1950. In 1960 my mum Sue was born.63 


The family then moved to Australia . They moved to Australia because Grandad who is an engineer got a better job offer over here.

My mum was 4 when She, my grandad and my nana and my auntie moved over to Australia, they then lived in Adelaide for 4 years before moving to Melbourne in 1969 due my grandads job transfer.61

They moved to a house in Mount Waverley which cost $17,000, My mum went to Amstel Primary School and Oakleigh high school. My nana Joan worked in an office for twenty years.My Grandad became the approvals officer for the Australian gas association.

This meant that any gas product wanting to sell to the public had to be approved by my Grandad first. This was a very important positon and my grandad loved his job and was very good at it.81

In 1978 my mum met my dad neil gordon, they married in 1984, they saved money for all that time and had enough money to buy a house in baxter. My dad was a cabinet maker working in a factory in Mornigton and my mum worked in accounts at a car dealership in Frankston.54

In 1990 my sister Jess was born at Frankston Hospital, in 1993 I then came along and crashed the party.

i attended Baxter kinder in 1997 and Baxter Primary School from 1998 to 2004.I am currently attending Mt Erin Secondary College.

In 1995 we moved from Baxter to Langwarrin where we are currently living. Now my dad is a teacher at tafe teaching Cabinet making and my mum is a pca at a retierment village in somervillr.77 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.168.236 (talk • contribs)

Some other information on Gordon's

Actually, Gordon originated in the 4th century AD in the Rhine valley as a branch of the Guenzberg family. A portion moved to Scotland during the Norman conquest and a portion went to Russia (following Patrick Gordon, who became a Russian General), to form the backbone of the Czarist armies. They intermarried Jews, which is where a large portion of the Russian Jewish Gordons came from. Jews also had settled in the Rhine Valley, where they also intermarried with Gordons that hadn't gone to Scotland.

The DNA haplotypes are, confusing, since Gordon are a very migrating family. You can read more about them at http://ggordon528.tripod.com/ged/gordon2.html

One branch of the Gordons moved to Palestine in the 1850's, where Aharon David Gordon invented the Kibbutz, founded the Israeli military and Labor party, and, started the ecology-anarchist movement. 71.239.175.188 03:59, 4 June 2007 (UTC)