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[edit] Problem cases

It seems that the (unknown) source for this list is not fully reliable and in some cases it is hard to establish the correct number of wins. The existing golf reference materials are not very complete or trustworthy, but then that is one of the main reasons why "Wikipedia Golf" is such a worthwhile project. Please add any more doubtful cases below so that they can be looked at and hopefully resolved one day. Cases which have already been resolved are struck through. There is another list that goes down to golfers with five wins here but it can't be the original sources for this (or rather the source of the recent extension of the list from players with 20 wins down to players with 5) because it is not an exact match (eg. it excludes Peter Thomson, who won once in the United States and also won The Open Championship four times, which would not have been included until 2002 and he would have been easy to miss when updating the tallies for the retrospective changes made in 2002). Osomec 09:06, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

The alternatively list also omits Tony Lema, which means it deserves little credence. Osomec 09:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I have added 'Henry Picard. (comment by Golfcam)

The following players are listed as having 15 or more wins on about.com but not here, and I plan to investigate them individually when I have time:

  • And according to his article E.J. "Dutch" Harrison, who isn't on this list, "had a total of 18 career victories", but it doesn't say they were all PGA Tour victories.Golfcam 03:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Win list now added to article and name added to our list. Osomec 10:06, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Doug Ford also has 19 according to this source [2], ie 2 majors and 17 others if you follow how the points system works. I will add him to Wikipedia's list. Chicheley 01:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Bob Rosburg is missing. He had at least five wins. this list and his (partially complete) PGA Tour profile say 6 and Hokeman says he has seen sources which state it was 7. Osomec 08:57, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Gay Brewer may have had either 11 (as on this list and per his article, which may however have taken its total from this list) or 10 as per the other list already referred to and the list of wins added to his article by a second editor. I have asked the original writer of the article for comments. Osomec 09:24, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Harry Cooper I have amended his tally to 31 as per the Hall of Fame and alternative list. Note that amendments were made to his article which reduced his tally to 29, but as no explanation was given I have reverted them. Osomec 10:02, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Upcoming 50th birthdays

[edit] Rejected deletion proposal

This page was voted on for deletion at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Golfers with most PGA Tour wins. dbenbenn | talk 23:45, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wins before 35

The following was added to the article and I am moving it here. It's interesting, but the first part is personal opinion and the list isn't formatted and it isn't likely to be kept up to date:

Winning is becoming more difficult on the PGA Tour, maybe due to the increased depth of competition, the enormous amount of money that a PGA Tour member can make off the golf course even before he hits a shot in competition, the ability to make a good living by finishing 25th place each week, or new equipment technology allowing more mediocre players to compete, but whatever the reason there are only 5 active PGA Tour players aged 35 or under with 5 PGA Tour wins or more, Tiger Woods, David Duval, Justin Leonard, Stuart Appleby and Sergio Garcia. By comparison, following are how many wins some of the great players in golf history had by their 35th birthday: Jack Nicklaus - 59 wins, Byron Nelson - 52 wins, Arnold Palmer - 45 wins, Walter Hagen - 44 wins, Sam Snead - 42 wins, Ben Hogan - 42 wins, Cary Middlecoff - 40 wins, Gene Sarazen - 39 wins, Tom Watson - 36 wins, Billy Casper - 33 wins, Johnny Miller - 22 wins, Gene Littler - 20 wins, Lee Trevino - 19 wins, Hubert Green - 17 wins, Curtis Strange - 17 wins, Ben Crenshaw - 13 wins, Davis Love II - 13 wins, Gary Player - 13 wins, Tom Weiskopf - 13 wins, Lanny Wadkins - 12 wins, Hale Irwin - 11 wins, Raymond Floyd - 10 wins, Greg Norman - 10 wins, Mark O'Meara - 8 wins.

Order==

Some other parts of the page are not in alphabetical order - so why put Tiger lower? Either have everything in alphabetical order, or have Tiger higher because he's current and we like to see him higher.


[edit] Buddy Allin

According to his PGA Tour death notice [3] Buddy Allin was a five time PGA Tour winner, but the article only lists three of them. Annandale 13:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

He's been added now. Annandale 22:38, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] South African players

Should the flag associatied with players be the one that they played under or the current one? There doesn't seem to be much consistency regarding this on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.142.101.172 (talk) 15:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)