Talk:GoldenEye: Rogue Agent

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[edit] Rumors

I'm putting this in the discussion section since it's only a rumor. If someone can back this up, feel free to migrate it to the main article.

  • It was rumored that the original concept for this game would feature "Agent 006", played by Sean Bean in the GoldenEye film, as the playable character. This would certainly be a more fitting follow-up to the classic GoldenEye 007 game. I assume that when negotiations to make this happen fell through, EA invented the new character named "GoldenEye" instead of scrapping the project and taking the loss.
-- Hardgoodbye 01:41, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Is it canon?

Does the game take place in the same continuity as the movie or videogames serieses? It should be mentioned.

No, not at all. None of the video games count as canon — especially this one. K1Bond007 03:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
You said that none of the video games are cannon. That is not true. The only time a video game is non-canonical is if the game contradicts what happens in the films. However, since this game contradicts the films, it is non-canonical. Emperor001 21:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mk2 detonator

Somebody should merge it. -- RevRagnarok Talk Contrib Reverts 22:31, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] By whom?

Rogue Agent is largely considered to be an attempt to recreate the success of one of the best selling video games in recent history,

Considered by whom? Prometheus-X303- 21:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Most reviewers at the time, at least over here, were quite angry with EA for using the name GoldenEye as the name of the game, and took it as EA attempting to use the name to sell more copies to the casual market, even at the cost of reputation among hardcore gamers. In fact, there is a more detailed description of this in the GoldenEye 007 article, which is as follows:
"In the autumn of 2004, Electronic Arts released GoldenEye: Rogue Agent for Xbox, PlayStation 2, GameCube and later the Nintendo DS. This is the first game based on the 007 franchise in which the player does not take on the role of James Bond himself; rather they control an aspiring 00-agent (named GoldenEye) who is recruited by Auric Goldfinger, the villain in the movie and book Goldfinger. The game has little to do with either the film GoldenEye or the N64 game, and was released to mediocre reviews and was criticised for using the "GoldenEye" name in an attempt to sell the game by riding on the success of Rare's game."
Considering how successful and adept the original N64 game was, many people were angry even with EA's acquisition of the Bond license (similar in scope to the US reaction to EA acquiring the exclusive NFL license), but were generally fine with the (relatively poor) quality of the games up until Rogue Agent, which many fans of the original, and reviewers e.t.c, felt was an insult, especially as in some of the pre-release build-up to the game it was hinted at, in advertisements and the like, that it was related to the original, and when questioned by journalists at press events, EA refused to deny (or even respond to) questions about the original N64 game.
Many also thought that "the main character has an eye with a gold tint" was a poor excuse for the name, and that the name of the game was decided before the plot.
I hope that answers your question, albeit in a long-winded way. :P --Dreaded Walrus 05:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I was actually more concerned with adding a citation. DO you know of any reviewers that can be cited? Prometheus-X303- 05:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't know of any web sources that say it (I remember Edge did something about it), but then I rarely read internet gaming sites. I'll have a quick look around some time, though, as I agree that kind of thing would be better with a citation.
Oops, I forgot to sign earlier. Never mind.
I found this review of Rogue Agent, and in the second paragraph it says "From the deceptive name (it neither plays like the original N64 classic nor is it in any way related) to the me-too Halo gameplay to the distinct lack of personality, story or level variation, GoldenEye: Rogue Agent is a bland slog of a game."
this review states "It has its moments, but Rogue Agent is the quick cash in we all feared rather than the stunning tribute to the N64’s GoldenEye that we all hoped it would be", then continues "The original GoldenEye for the N64 is one of the most beloved games of all time. Back in 1997 it set the world on fire with an amazing single player game and awesome four player deathmatch mode. GoldenEye the movie also stands as the last really good James Bond movie. Strangely enough, Rogue Agent doesn’t have anything to do with either of them. Instead, Rogue Agent tells the story of a former British agent who was kicked out of the service for being too ruthless and brutal. Auric Goldfinger then offers you a job to help him in his fight against Dr. No. Goldfinger also replaces an eye that was injured in a previous encounter with Dr. No with a mechanical one. Thus giving you the name GoldenEye. It is as if EA knew they wanted to use the GoldenEye name and then had to come up with a lame backstory to fit the name. That just screams quick cash in and is more likely to turn off any of the real GoldenEye (movie and N64 game both) fans that EA so obviously wanted to attract".
this review includes "By resurrecting the name, but not referencing much of the GoldenEye material, the whole game feels like a cheap attempt to cash in on the nostalgic feelings that many have for the Nintendo 64 hit. It's perhaps the most "evil" thing about GoldenEye: Rogue Agent."
Those are just the first three reviews the come up when typing 'goldeneye rogue agent more:reviews' into Google. Would you say those are enough, or should I go for more? --Dreaded Walrus 06:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Good job! The second and third should do quite nicely. Prometheus-X303- 06:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Would you be able to add them? I'm awful with adding references and stuff. I know how, I just aren't able to. :P --Dreaded Walrus 06:19, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Octopus symbol

In the game, an octopus symbol is often seen. Is it Goldfinger's personal symbol, or the symbol of SPECTRE? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.135.89.116 (talk) 01:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

The octopus symbol along with the name octopus is used in the game instead of SPECTRE as the legal rights to SPECTRE are not in EA's hands due to a legal dispute over Thunderball.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderball_%28novel%29#The_controversy_over_the_novel

[edit] Weapons

To be consistent with the other James Bond Games, shouldn't there be a list of weapons used in the game? Emperor001 22:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)