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[edit] Confirmed facts

Any chance of a confirmed facts section being added? PureSoldier 04:45, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV tag on Critical Reception section

Why, exactly, was this placed there? It reads very positive, because that is, in fact, how the game has been reviewed by just about everyone who has reviewed it. Metacritic doesn't have a score lower than 90. All sources are cited, and they are all reputable video game reviewers. Unless someone puts their rationale here, I'm getting rid of that in 24 hours. Thatcrazycommie 16:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Since there were no protests, I have deleted the tag. Thatcrazycommie 22:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, the section could use a rewrite. Presently it's rather... fanboyish. I mean, "The game is considered one of the PlayStation 2's best games,[6][7] and also one of the best action games of all time.[8][9][10]"? Maybe "Many reviewers consider it to be (...)" would fly better. 83.108.173.66 20:12, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gameplay

Removed the comment asking readers not to delete some gameplay information and to e-mail simsward007@hotmail.com with any questions. This is NOT the correct way to do this. The talk page serves this function. Also, if there is in fact proof from "Cory Barlog's blog", please cite it, otherwise that information will be removed shortly. SumDude 20:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

According to IGN, this game has been pushed back to April. 24.243.185.46 04:51, 11 January 2007 (UTC)Vic

[edit] New Gameplay Update

I've updated the Gameplay section, using the recent update on IGN.com as a source. Another person provided more updates, and i edited them to make them fit Wikipedia standards. Vicious1 08:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)Vic

[edit] Boss List

What is it with this place and posting the boss list for every highly anticipated game out there with no spoiler warnings beforehand? Quit it.

Please stop writing that the Dark Rider is the guy with the ice spear. It's the creature on the Gryphon holding a purple spear from the Pegasus gameplay footage. The man with the ice spear is Theseus.

Hercules is no a boss, nowhere in the game it is said the spartan you fight before the kraken is Hercules.

yes he is a loyal but unnamed soldier of Sparta

[edit] Resolution of 720p is not supported

The article lists a 720p resolution as supported. That is incorrect:

http://www.digg.com/gaming_news/God_of_War_II_Rumor_Busted_Not_In_720p_on_PS3

24.6.237.203 04:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Graphics

Any one else notice that the graphics section reads as a review for the game (at the least, like an opinion)?

Even from a technical perspective, God of War really carries its weight, making excellent use of the PS2 hardware's capabilities. The best part of the game is the animation, which is practically seamless, no matter what you do. The developers evidently went out of their way to make sure every possible scenario was animated in a realistic fashion. As a result, you won't find any herky-jerky movements between getting hit and going into another combo move. Everything transitions beautifully, and save for a few glitches you might run into here and there (most of which are minor), this game is just about as polished up as polished up gets. (Jaffe, 2007:155)

I'll hold from cleaning it for a bit, to see what others think. 69.130.238.111 03:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The "graphics" section's voice is nothing like an encyclopedic entry. Please change it when you have the time.JiangWei23 05:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I want to edit the section, I just don't know how to go about it. I think I will need help on such. I figure I should ask if graphics & sound should have sections for this game. I would understand if this were a game engine that was likely to be licensed or was notable in some fashion, but not for console games (even sequels). I'm sorry if that seems biased, but I thought I should ask. -Brad 69.130.238.111 02:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bad Reviews, Europe Release, 1080i30 and so on

'God of War II is a 2 disc set. The beloved Europeans will be extra-charged for the bonus disc as used to by SONY (analog to PS3, BC-gate). Ya know, which Country provided you the Story of Kratos and on which Continent it lies? This Page is supervised by Sony, Fanbois whatever. I edited the well-known Edge-Review of 7/10 which don't match to the Hype of all US Pages and you erased it. Don't trust Wikipedia

And the 1080 Mode is BS, where is Proof for that.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.163.121.241 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Cockatrice?

The last enemy on the list (at the time of writing) says "Raven." I have played the game, and I think they look more like a Cockatrice. Also their heads are turkey-like, so even if they aren't I don't think they are Ravens. Was the name taken from an official source, because if so I don't want to change it, but I really doubt Raven is the name. LFStokols 03:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)LFStokols

There's only one raven in the game, you break its neck on the way to Typhon's prison, if I remember correctly. Edit: forgot to sign. Master Deusoma 21:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

The official game guide called it a raven. SpartanGlory1983 (talk) 10:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC) SpartanGlory1983

[edit] Lists of "X"

The various lists (outside of characters and bosses) are probably too much in excess for the game by WP:NOT and the CVG guidelines for game articles, as this article reads more like a game guide than an encyclopedic article. Mind you, because of the semi-influence of mythology, some names shouldn't just be dropped completely (such as in the Urns). I suggest that the longs lists here get simply reduced to something like a short list enumerating the powers/items you can get, with wikilinks where appropriate, but no discussion of the power/effects (the story provides most of that information, for urns and armor, that's guide information). --Masem 11:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I definitely agree with this, it seems like tons of info that is not needed. -- Whereizben - Chat with me - My Contributions 14:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I've de-listed most of the article (save for characters, which is generally ok by CVG project guidelines as long as it doesn't delve into FAQ material). It helps the length of the article as well, I believe. --Masem 03:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm adding note of this again, as people keep trying to add back in game guide type information. Lists of X outside of major characters is consider to be not appropriate (Indiscriminate information) by WP. There's plenty of FAQs for the game out there, they don't need to be added to here. --Masem 01:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

And I hate to repeat myself but people keep on adding in the guide-type stuff for this article. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines which states what is appropriate for a game-related article on WP and what is appropriate for a game-related article on gaming-specific wikis. All the list content that was there from before has no relevance for someone that has not nor ever will play the game but needs to learn some of the fundamental features of it.

If you disagree with this, please talk about it here; that's why I waited about a week with only one response (in favor of doing it) before I made the change in the first place.--Masem 12:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible article lock to avoid vandalism?

Is it possible to lock the article edition to allow it only to members of wikipedia? Some vendalism like the "This game sucks" comment on the gameplay section must be stopped. The comment has already been deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Iamagamesadict (talk • contribs) 18:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

It's possible to request semi-protection (only registered WP users can edit content), but you'll need to request it at WP:RFP. However, having RFP's other pages, the current activity on the GOW2 page is a bit slow for a vandalism semi-prot lock. However, it's always easy to request it. --Masem 01:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Urns

Does anybody know the locations of the Urns? I could really use them. (UNSIGNED)

WP is not a game guide, but you should be able to find this type of information at www.gamefaqs.com --Masem 22:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes for characters

Informal poll: the quotes being added for the major characters seem inappropriate for a WP article (it feels like fan-type addition and not as neutral, nor does it really add anything for the understanding of the game). I deleted them once but they got put back in. Rather not edit war about them. Any other thoughts? --Masem 03:27, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree, they're completely unencyclopedic. --Cornflake pirate 04:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Continuity Errors

I cut and pasted a paragraph to be a bit more chronological, as it listed Kratos' receival of Kronos' Rage as happening after even the battle with Eurayle. I had to add some parts to make it the paragraph transition well, instead of the run-on sentence it began as. Dibbity Dan 04:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Story section waaaay too long

Having seen a couple articles undergo peer review (not myself), I will say right now that the story section is too long. It probably should be 3 to 4 paragraphs (the rough acts would basically be "Sparta", "Getting to the Isle of the Fates", and "Facing the Fates", *roughly*). However, once that gets tightened down, I would think we could start thinking about a peer review.

Can anyone get a screenshot or two from the game? That would help to some extent as well. --Masem 05:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I've worked on cutting the story down majorly, leaving it to the main plot of the story; individual boss encounters are well documented in the Bosses section, so I was writing to get the gist of Kratos vs Zeus and how the Titans and Sisters of Fate work into the story. Everything else that was there was incredibly detailed for an encyclopedic articles. --Masem 04:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] City of Rhodes web site

There is a bit on the page regarding a date and that there was a countdown. The origonal countdown ended minutes ago, but for me and a friend, all that happened was a new countdown began (for 2 days starting when the old one ran out). My local time zone is EST. Please confirm this someone. Teh HM 04:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


Yes you are correct, it did the same for me at 12am, and my timezone is central. Does anybody know if this site is the real deal or just abunch of BS?75.129.135.103 05:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Bird in the first level

There seems to be confusion about who is the bird in the first level. The bird is Zeus, because after the hand of the Colossus smashes Kratos and his armor falls off, Kratos walks towards the Blade, then the bird descends towards him and transforms into Zeus. It is not Athena. Kratos only suspects that it is her. Interrupt_feed 03:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar?

Did someone with English as their second language write this, or translate it with BabelFish? Tenses are almost nonexistent. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Critical Info (talk • contribs) 22:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Lets give a little more info

When cheaked this out i noticed one thing: unorganized, come on listing the magic in one clump and then puttin poor info on each spell, if you have played the game you shoud know what I mean. Live for yourself 20:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

For an encyclopedic article, there's no need to go into great detail on specifics of the game; the article is to be written to give someone that hasn't played the game or will never likely enough information to understand what the game is about, no more, no less. --Masem 20:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'HD' mode

The so-called 'HD' mode is probably worth mentioning in the article. If anyone understands what it does ('480p with full size buffers') to an adequate degree, they should add it in. I sure don't. Nova Prime 03:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I've beaten the game in both regular and HD mode and I don't notice any difference.--Gundor Twintle Fluffy 13:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Use a different TV or something, because I noticed, on my highest-quality television, a subtly noticeable difference in sharpness and clearness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.64.131 (talk) 02:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comparison?

I dont know about anyone else, but i think there should be some sort of comparison section between this game and the original "God of war".81.145.240.17 14:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

There are no (readily) significant game differences are there are between other sequels, beyond new magics and weapons which is already outlined. The more subtle differences (how gameplay feels, etc.) are very difficult to put in without imposing a POV on the article, and thus unless you can find a top tier review that says this (and if so, it goes in Reception), and thus it's not really needed as well. --Masem 14:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goat sacrifice?

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/28/uk-paper-sony-beheaded-goat-to-promote-god-of-war-ii/ Should this have its own section or merely be added to the trivia section? I think it's at least worth adding to the article, opinions welcome. 90.192.88.186 16:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)zim.

I would wait to see if the main Sony or PlayStation 2 articles get this piece; it's not directly about the game, but if either of these articles discuss the issue, it can be added linking back to those. --Masem 17:10, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
It's not about the actual game content, but it relates far more to God of War II than to Sony as a company or to the PlayStation 2 hardware. It was a marketing stunt to promote the game, which IMO means it belongs in this article rather than in either of those. 71.203.209.0 20:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
This concerns the release of the game in Europe, and it seems to me to be highly relevant. Eggertm 17:36, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I believe it should be added Zisimos 15:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blades of Chaos

Can anyone confirm that Kratos' "Blades of Chaos" were removed from him by Ares in the first game, to be replaced by "Athena's Blades" in the second game? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.27.176.145 (talk) 04:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

Yeh, play the game! ^_^ And I seriously doubt Kratos would want those things any way. Sam ov the blue sand 23:58, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes his blades are taken by ares and athena, in an attempt to save him sends him the blades of athena. These are carried over to the next game

it's confuising...at the start they are called Athena Blade and have golden aura.but after Kratos loses all his divine powers,they become Blade of Caos! 81.145.241.179 19:40, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

No, they just look like the Blades of Chaos because they gain the old red hue and loose the golden hue. They are still Athena's Baldes. I know because I just checked. Gamer am I 11:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, Ares rips the blades away, and this is when Kratos loses hope in his battle. Then he sees the sword bridge and gains confidence again, grabs the sword, and uses this for the rest of the battle. Then as Kratos is on (or before he is on - i forget) Mount Olympus, he is bestowed Athena's Blades. Dibbitah Dan 01:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC)