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Sheep

I am sure the bennetts article in my sandbox might lead into the beverley sheep disease - have you come across the mention of it at all? SatuSuro 13:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

my youngest finishes primary this week - and is getting teeth pulled out tommorow - unfortunately he's too young for Borat - will have to try something more civilised :) - BTW I need help for massive loading onto commons - maybe email would be better. SatuSuro 13:40, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Boy was he in grumpy mood - offered him anything - just wanted to come home and watch tv! my thing is that I have about 50 -60 images to load into commons at first pop - is there a better way than others to do this - i think you have already told me. :) SatuSuro 13:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for that the wow addict is trying to stay on as late as poss again - so I might have questions re the commonist another day. Thanks again SatuSuro 13:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Damage to neo-Nazism article continues

User:NovaNova is being persistent in continuing his (or her) campaign of reverting a section of the Neo-Nazism article to an inferior version that does not focus on the actual topic of the article. That editor has also started using anonymous IPS to make those destructive edits, and shows no sign of ceasing this counterproductive edit war. Spylab 14:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Your input is requested

Your input would be appreciated at this Request for Comments. Kelly Martin (talk) 17:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian maritime history

Appears viable and is now started - please excuse any rough patches in the start - any suggestions would be appreciated! SatuSuro 01:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah someone untangled the lesouef family tree tonight - great stuff! SatuSuro 14:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

thank you

thank you for your help on the Regina, Saskatchewan article. Mumun 14:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:AIV

Firefox multi-tabbing. Also, the rollback button and VoA's admin scripts help with the speedy block notice. =) Nishkid64 15:43, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

By the way, see [1]. It deals with your block. I thought you might want to know. Nishkid64 15:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I was going to block him indef. Anyway, I g2g now, so do whatever you want. Nishkid64 15:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

re:zzzaaacccch

After talk to another admin I've extended the block to indefinate Gnangarra 16:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

It's fine, we all have disagreements on how to implement the block policy. I just reapplied him, as, IMHO, this type of vandalism is just the kind to nip in the bud right away, as nothing good can come of it. -Patstuarttalk|edits 16:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Lamb of God

Just wanted to re-thank you to the lock on this page. It is unfortunate that people will automatically change "metalcore" to "metal" simply because they dislike the label, it makes the page false, and as we know it is the WP:HMM goal to help keep the pages neat and accurate. I've posted my concerns on the Metal talk page, I hope that this user doesn't change the genre to something unsourced again...I was actually thinking we could see what'd happen if we unlocked the page temporarily. It's too bad that edits like that continued though...oh well. Regardless, I will continue to watch the page, and thank you again. --Ryouga 23:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I think that the LoG page should not limit their genre to post-thrash/metalcore for the fact that it is hard to limit them to two genres that they are only influenced by and do not fully express either the post-thrash or metalcore genres. I feel that their genre should be labeled as "(American) Metal with varied influences (including post-thrash, metalcore, prog...)". Or, as the Slipknot page (in a sense, and more literally in the discussion page) does, not list the specific genre but contain the information that they are an American Metal band whose genre is disputed among not only critics but the fans. Ryouga listed three references with them being listed as metalcore while I gave him about four sources that pretty much state that it is hard to identify them as any one genre. This goes without saying he ignored my references. I do agree with the fact that they contain metalcore influence, but I do not agree that they are strictly a post-thrash/metalcore band.

The reason I did not change the page myself and brought this to you in the first place is because I did not want to have my posting privileges taken away for "abuse".

Well, I did post on the discussion page for LoG before coming to you. I listed my references but Ryouga claimed that they were "random labels" and disregarded them. I was actually in a discussion with Ryouga on the page before becoming a registered user and I only vaguely insulted him once in my last post while talking to him, mainly because of how he treated, not only me, but others on the board as well. I did, before that, however, counter him in what I felt were incorrections and never implied anything negative about him.

I don't want to tattle tell or anything but this is exactly what he has stated to me "this shows your ignorance" (this was just after I proved him wrong about Melodic Death Metal, so we were both wrong about one thing), "if you knew anything about","Even rockdetector and the MP3.com editor are smart enough to see the metalcore of their sound", "no LOG-obsessed fanboy would accept" (that one implied I was the LOG fanboy).

To another person he wrote "I pity you for believing this band to be "Pure American Metal" simply because of their slogan. Slipknot claims to play "metal metal," however, any true metal fan would point you to nü metal. Similar thing with Lamb of God -- they are a borderline metalcore band. I know this, because I know my metal. the citations are simply there to disprove the idiocy of the IP address who constantly attack the page and change the genre to something completely incorrect, such as "Black metal." Now please, stop arguing with what you do not understand, and perhaps in time this page will be unlocked",

So as you can see, I've tried to cite examples on how LoG are hard to define as a genre and have actually mentioned it in my posts, but each time I tried to respond I was hit in the face with an insult and incivility. I fear that if I tried to just change the genre myself, or attempt to bring back my suggestion, he would claim that I had abused the page or am incorrect.

The only absolutely major act of what could be called "vandalism" is the removal of the metalcore genre, which is cited 3 times. There is no reason for its removal -- in fact there was a time where groove metal (same thing as post-thrash) and metalcore were the only genres there, until one person decided they were not metalcore. I do not recall when exactly that happened, but ever since then, the page has been in constant revert wars. It is not my wish to clutter the page with irrelevant genres -- those two had stuck, and are cited. Neither of this has been done for the other user/IP address edits. Check on that yourself (the citing still points to the sources I gave). The descriptions that someone else gave ("This goes without saying he ignored my references"; a link was NEVER actually provided, although) were abolutely ridiculous, and changed greatly from album to album (ex. "thrashcore with metalcore influences" or something, and "thrashcore" is a type of hardcore, not metal, thus it would simply further disprove the metal label. The point is, if there is valid information to add, discuss it. Don't remove what is proven. Otherwise, the page may be locked again (not to mention some people simply go and attack the page with total vandalism, like editing the band name or whatnot). As of right now, follwoing the unlock, the page has been edited by the user "MetalForever" for the same reason it was locked -- removal of cited information and undiscussed/irrelevant genre change ("Death Metal" and more ambiguously "Metal"). Gnangarra, I'd say it's totally your call on what you want to do. And as for "I fear that if I tried to just change the genre myself, or attempt to bring back my suggestion, he would claim that I had abused the page or am incorrect." That is a false claim. No one had any penalization for any of this, nor were they requested for it. If they had actually cited a link in the page it'd make more sense. Not once did anyone cite any valid links, except for tell me what they remember seeing on some random site(s). Update: Honestly, if someone would give me a cite, I wouldn't be as upset about this. The removal of the "metalcore" genre is just completely agitating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lamb_of_God_%28band%29 The only reference to a genre there is a link to the Encyclopaedia Metallum, that another user (not I) had linked. As you can see, there weren't any proper cites. If the other user(s) and I could reach a consensus that didn't involve unsourced edits, this page would cool down. Thanks for all help thus far, again. --Ryouga 05:27, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

This is the closest thing to a "cite": "Aggressive Thrashy Metalcore", As The Palaces Burn as "Aggressive Melodic Metalcore", Sacrament as "Hardcore Death Metal" None of the preceding genres are existent on Wikipedia, or really, anywhere else. Nor was any direct linking given or used in the actual reverts I made. --Ryouga 05:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

AMH

Thanks for your tinkling with links and positions and things. I have just found out why there is scuh a dearth of maritime history on wikipedia - you wander the categories from ShipTransport and through sub categories and the water transport by country - and there these categories linked - but the water transport thingy sort of relegates maritime history into a mere byway by the way it insists on the unilateral water transport by country heirarchy. whew! there are all these categrories and no parent/master article - so the actual quality of the original/end 'ship transport' article is primary school level and hardly does justice to what is a massive heirarchy/tree. What do you think? Am I ready for the gardening as I said to moondyne? I'd apprecite your opinion. Its a bit of a trawl through the stuff, no rush. SatuSuro 01:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

There is a very bare talk page that might bring out some sort of reaction when you are ready.... :) SatuSuro 14:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Quick question re Wiki -> commons

Thought I'd throw it your way as you seem to know a fair bit about images and licensing :)

In my ignorance I created a bunch of images on en a while back, which are drawn in a paint program and hence free (they're the suburb maps for Albany). I've since realised Commons is probably a better place for them (and I have an account there) - is there a way to move them there or does that have to be done by an admin? Or would it be better to just reupload them there and delete them here? Orderinchaos78 15:26, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


Convictism in Western Australia - GA nomination

Looks good I altered the layout of the see also section. I think the lead needs to be expanded to 2 paragraphs at some stage, though I dont think they'll fail it because its one para. Gnangarra 00:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Expanded the intro=, thanks for the input, Do you think I should de-link the red links?Ghostieguide 01:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Perth images

we should compare notes - part of my big download is a whole range of city piccies SatuSuro 02:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I have some baldricks (ie good ideas) I'll let you know! SatuSuro 10:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Yalgoo

Hesperian and I had an interesting interaction this am with the category maker - his intentions are good - just he's changed the category - and we must have forgotten to remove - check hesperians comments, anyway I still havent got up to a good idea yet about what to do with my iphoto file full of piccies potential! SatuSuro 06:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

If you are on (our time 8.18) - I think Merbabu needs help with a page change SatuSuro 11:19, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey hang in there - we'll have to catcch up on this image thing - I think I have too many to upload (!) need your cutting sword of discrimination to check my mass of jpegs! SatuSuro 13:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for voting

Thank you for voting in my RfA which at 51/20/6 unfortunately did not achieve consensus. In closing the nomination, Essjay remarked that it was one of the better discussed RfAs seen recently and I would like to thank you and all others who chose to vote for making it as such. It was extremely humbling to see the large number of support votes, and the number of oppose votes and comments will help me to become stronger. I hope to run again for adminship soon. Thank you all once more. Wikiwoohoo 19:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Perth

I have uploaded a new image for the userbox, wikiproject perth. You can see it [here], what do you think?

symode09 02:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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Aquinas College, Perth Article

Thanks for your help in relation to the article, it is much apreciated, but it does cite external references, like the PSA Athletics Handbook 2006. But why (for other stuff) would external sources need to be cited, when the college is going to be more of an expert on itself, than some random who is interested in it? it seems crazy that you would need more external sources, but i do have them. So i removed the tag, what do u think? refer to talk page Aquinas College, Perth. Thanks =) Smbarnzy 12:11, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

A while back you made a proposed article for the Aquinas College, Perth page, i looked at it, found is interesting and well thought out, i made a few changes / additions. Can you check it out, see what you think, possibly make some suggestions via the talk page. Thanks =) Smbarnzy 11:58, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Can you help me savemany of the daughter articles of Aquinas College, Perth as alot of them are being put up for deletion, which is frustrating. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smbarnzy (talk • contribs) 14:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

Kofi Annan Semi-protection

Hi, I see that you've reversed your decision to give Semi-protection to the Kofi Annan page. I was delighted and relieved (and I know I'm not alone!) when you came through with Semi-protection. As I mentioned in my requests, the page has been an ongoing magnet for racist vandalism -- which reflects very badly on Wikipedia.

Although it's linked to from the main page, it's not out of the question to give it Semi-protection -- as contrasted with locking it up completely. Even the statement re policy only says "It is rarely appropriate to protect pages in this case." Note that it doesn't say "never" -- and that was referring to FULL protection, in any event.

This page is crying out for Semi-protection to keep the pathetic anonymous vandals from continually posting their not-so-cute racist remarks, etc. Please... reconsider this, and restore Semi-protection ASAP. Not just to spare myself and the other concerned editors from a lot of pointless & unnecessary work, but also to protect WP from an undeserved reputation for racist comments in articles about people of African ancestry.

Cgingold 14:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Albinism Semi-protection

Thankyouthankyouthankyou. I may actually get to sleep a little! Question: Is there a time limit on this? Do I need to request renewal at some point? I'm going to be on the road for a bit, and offline a lot, so it would help a lot to know if there's a schedule I need to be aware of. I'm not an admin, so I can't see all the deets...  :-) — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 16:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Puppets

Hi

i'm current;y accused of being a sock puppet of symode09, do you know how I can prove that I am not. Also, when am I allowed to remove sock puppet tags? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Useamac (talk • contribs) 17:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Kofi Annan protection

There was a request at WP:RFPP for semi-protection of Kofi Annan and I went ahead and protected the page. WP:SEMI says: To prevent vandalism on the day's Featured Article. Semi-protection for a very brief period is acceptable to remove excessive vandalism from the page, or to combat an unusually high level of vandalism from multiple IPs or accounts. For a rationale of this, see Wikipedia:Don't protect Main Page featured articles. Other pages linked from the Main Page may be protected if under attack, though more leeway should be given with these than with most articles.

I'm assuming you unprotected just because it was on the Main Page, and I just wanted to let you know that this usually applies to Featured Articles, not stuff in ITN, DYK, OTD, etc. Nishkid64 02:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Perth/Hobart parallel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hobart#The_four_Hobarts - I think is direcctly relevant to Perth - what do you think? SatuSuro 02:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Unprotection

Re: Blocking policy unprotection: policy page changes should be by consensus, regular editors can still edit the page

Err... "regular editors?" I'm sure that you're aware that neither Wikipedia:Protection policy nor Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy say anything about "regular editors." I'm going to replace the request for unprotectionand link your earlier refusal as well as this discussion. That way if you're busy, someone else can discuss it, or if you're not you can chime in.
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Tasmanian Aborigines

I think We need this one on watch...SatuSuro 13:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Must be in th stars - cant find mine in the current choas - SatuSuro 13:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
gott get off now - will try emailing tommorrow SatuSuro 13:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Any plaques near the entrance about refurbishments or earlier directors is my bid - also - while you are still on...
One of my Indonesian diversion mates has the following: -

The article Pride (In the Name of Love) as a number of quotes in it. After some recent edits, the two quotes at the start of the History section have been pushed right down, but I can't fix it. What's wrong? --Merbabu 23:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC I am wondering is that something we can help him with? SatuSuro 23:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

It looks like he sorted it out for himself - I dunno. trust the day went well! SatuSuro 12:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Zoo

Overtired children... Japanese tourists...

But seriously, the main image for the Perth Zoo article should be a good photo of the front gates.

Hesperian 23:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikilogos

I've noticed you're very involved here, you might be interested in my proposal for Wikipedia use logo variations created by members of the wiki community to mark national and international awareness days, Remembrance Days, notable anniversaries, and observance days. Please comment on Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Logo Variations and on my talk page. Thanks! frummer 03:24, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

B. epica

Any chance you're planning on taking your camera down to Kings Park some time soon? Banksia epica needs another photo. A photo of the overall form of the shrub would be great. But I'd take just about anything other than another spike closeup - trunk, branches, leaves, juveniles, disease.... Hey, I've got an idea - why not take a stroll down to Toolinna Cove and photograph the native stands! But seriously, don't rush out to KP just for this; this is too busy a time of year for that, and the article's not ready for FAC yet anyhow. But keep it in the back of your mind. Hesperian 11:11, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Photo wish list

Brilliant idea. —Moondyne 14:15, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Could you conjure up a photo of the brewery with the swan and the ship in lights? That wouldn't be too hard would it? And how about the old gasometer sphere in East Perth?
I presume you know about this. —Moondyne 14:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Yesterday was full sun all day which was a bit of a stretch. Just kept on rubbing in the 30+ and wore a hat and I came out OK (surprisingly for me). Today was in the members in the shade and was much more nicer. Saturday will be a day of rest.
The army never cry, they just get louder and drunker. Bloody funny. —Moondyne 14:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Oooee, sounds like some good stuff there. What's involved in scanning 35mm slides? Expensive I would presume. My Dad had a go at projecting them onto a wall and taking a digital photo of the wall. It sounds ridiculous I know and it gave this for example, which is not fancy but sure was cheap. —Moondyne 14:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps like this Image:Mitchell Freeway c. 1957.JPG? —Moondyne 15:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I've come to this conversation a bit late (what was I doing?) I have an expensive scanner that scans slides and negs very well. (my list is approx 25,000 images from everything including java fieldwork, and other things) you guys are welcome to a fortnightly/three weekly session of scanning an experimenting with my scanner if you like - cups of coffee and tea provided... :) SatuSuro 23:59, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Infinity on High Protection

The IP spam returned today. I think it should be protected again. --Russ is the sex 23:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Freshwater Bay, Western Australia

Longhair in his ... trawling for the articles that have escaped WPA found this gem - I think we should savour it a while - before the echoes with Mount Hnery start resonating :) SatuSuro 01:56, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Trust youve kept cool - I noted very carefully that in the west yesterday that thornlie and canningvale have the max finalists per suburb in the chrissie lights comp! (5) - when me and my youngest two check out charlottes web 2pm - car ambient temp guage had 49 C ! farrell road - midvale - was 52. SatuSuro 12:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
watcha think the category tree sub page in the maritime project, I'd be interested as to whether Ive done the right thing or not? SatuSuro 12:39, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
This is why I have layed it out (or started to) on the sub page - sop that we can see the duplications and weird links so far- and possible areas of cleanup! SatuSuro 13:09, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

fair use

if you are unhuppy with situations like this please consider to visite from time to time Wikipedia talk:Fair use,where this insane policy was made and participate in the votes.Please also trie to atracte others to the isue.--Bootstrapping 14:13, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

dealing with unthought out cats

(1) Category:Ports and harbours of Australia where does this fit or does it conflict with category:Port cities in Australia Gnangarra

(2) Please some wisdom from the maritime cat king, I placed Carnarvon, Western Australia into Category:Port cities in Australia but thinking maybe there should be the cats Category:Defunct Port cities in Australia and Category:Abandoned Port cities in Australia whats your thoughts oh wise one.

Wisdom -ullsh-- according to my teenagers - beware such usage!  :)

Sorry about delay- kept away from the hotbox and watched kenny dvd for comic relief in the mid of the day :) we must have something going on in our culture when boxing day will be flushed away! mr frued and or jungs ghosts must be chuckling... Ok - the plan is (Baldrick to some...) if I can do it is expose every cat that is the slightest related on the sub-page and put up suggestions to the assembled gathering as to cats that need flushing away - and some that need populating.

(2) I personally am not in favour of your point two - too narrow with limited opportunities. (1) the two sep categories are compatible if further qualifiers are put at the intro of those two cats - and they can live together.

Please feel free to deliver repostes and brickbats in iced form - thanks ...:) SatuSuro 09:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I almost thought that I was visiting a ghost message and then saw it up the page - hey what do you think of the above? SatuSuro 09:39, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey I dig it - I think I got the right sense on second reading. yeehah! SatuSuro 09:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

The answer has appeared on the sub-page Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian maritime history/Categories - to your question about the point 1 above - extracted from the category pages and now entered in... SatuSuro 09:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikibreak

I'm taking some time off from WP for a while. Hope you have a pleasant festive season and I'll talk to you soon. —Moondyne 14:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Western Australia

As you are a member of WP:WA, I would like to invite you to add a userbox I created for the project. It looks like this; {{User WikiProject Western Australia}} Cheers!--M W Johnson 23:47, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I think the WA=yes tag will be embedded more in my brain/eye sooner than Maritime=yes" - maybe... SatuSuro 09:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Anton Balasingham

You've declined to semi protect, OK but can you do something about the IP, please this timely article is a total mess. He just died and most people are coming to Wikipedia to read about him, only to find an absolute mess. I may have breached the 3RR rule mysel, so I rereverted myself. Thanks RaveenS

Please could you

Hava looka at da art called sunset coast - I think I need to refrain from biting the newcomer, good intention but not a wikipedia art - watcha think? I've the welcome in its talk page, but...SatuSuro 00:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC) actually ive just notied hesp is on - might try him...SatuSuro 00:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

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Tasmania National Parks

I dont know if youre on - Ive tried chuq I think he might be off cant tell - I think the two editors need to talk.... Maybe if you have the time - I might try a few others, so maybe someone will but in.. dunno SatuSuro 12:14, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Apologies - not very helpful, will try in a second...to get it right SatuSuro 12:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Template:National parks in Tasmania and its history - I hope thats an idea... SatuSuro 12:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

In case there is obtusification - one editor has started a national park box for the nation ( I think without actually looking at each states lists) has started on tassie - then another has changed it to tassie - and I think the category is redundant as there was an exisitng one - but the user thinks the box is useful :( sigh. - theyre both newbies... I just think there needs to be someone else commenting as I did a welcome for one and have been critical of anothersediting - so I think another preferabley admin look at it all - I would have bothered others - but seeing you are on I would appreicate your comments to any of us - I just think that such a project needs to be discussed before it gets much further SatuSuro 12:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I have left messages at both the editors involved trying to explain where I come from on this - I hope it is all in good faith so far... SatuSuro 12:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

The moment of reckoning was here: -

19:08, 19 December 2006 (hist) (diff) Template:National parks in Australia (moved Template:National parks in Australia to Template:National parks in Tasmania: that is all it has at the moment and it would be too big if all states were added) (top) 19:08, 19 December 2006 (hist) (diff) m Template:National parks in Tasmania (moved Template:National parks in Australia to Template:National parks in Tasmania: that is all it has at the moment and it would be too big if all states were added) 19:04, 19 December 2006 (hist) (diff) Template:National parks in Tasmania (get rid of all states except tasmania)

So thats it so far... SatuSuro 12:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I may well have created a storm in a teacup - but the problem might be that I have confused an info box for a category - or vice versa - or the current process so far is ok? I just think the two participants need to speak to each other - or use a forum to explain issues rather than what has happened so far - who knows they might team up and do great things? I certainly hope so! SatuSuro 12:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that SatuSuro 13:43, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey there's a crisis at Orangutan - wanna adjudicate? cannot see the east oz admins active for that one :) SatuSuro 13:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Apologies

About all that above- over-reaction - the orangutan issue got trounced by someone this morning - but it was unpleasent last night. bit like the weather. Trust all is well SatuSuro 07:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: today's images

Welcome. Nice map. I've been using Image:Swan River Colony land grants map.png at Land grants in the Swan River Colony; this is a great map at full res, but unfortunately doesn't render properly at low res. I wonder if that article would be better illustrated by your new image.

I've replied to other stuff on at my talk page, so as to catch OIC too. Hesperian 11:03, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :)

Thanks for rating the Hamersley article... it's still a work in progress as I'm getting access to the TPS soon and also going to take better photos (I'm thinking of replacing the title image with one of the community centre which has "Hamersley" clearly printed on the front, and finding a good one on the eastern side as everything's from the west thus far). Good to see it's already B-class though, so once I'm done I might just submit for GAC and see how it goes! Orderinchaos78 12:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)