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[edit] Auroranorth and WP:AWB
Hi, I'm Auroranorth's coach.
My coaching has consisted of him coming to me for assignments, which he has completed diligently and well.
It looks like he needs closer supervision. I'll be happy to provide this.
He's a kid, and a bit of a hothead, but I believe he's got great potential -- it's just that he doesn't quite get it (how things work around here) yet. He's got a great deal of energy, and a voracious appetite for learning everything about Wikipedia. I can see he cares about the project -- he's just a little rough around the edges. So was I when I started. I believe with continued (and increased) guidance he will turn out to be one hell of a good editor. He just needs some aculturalization. :-)
I made an agreement with him concerning AWB, he's stuck to his part of the bargain, and he hasn't abused that tool. He only uses it to complete the assignments I provide him, and he's done very well with it so far.
I've already pledged to clean up any problems he might cause with it, and he's kept to his word that he wouldn't use it for anything except by my explicit instructions.
I would appreciate it if you would restore his access to it.
I'll be focusing his energies on Wikipedia's Lists of basic topics initially, which are in dire need of attention, and once we've cleaned those up some, will be expanding his activities upon our set of Lists of topics. After he's got Wikipedia's superstructure down pat, I'll ease him back into editing regular articles.
I believe I can keep him occupied and interested enough to keep him out of further trouble.
Sincerely,
The Transhumanist 11:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
P.S.: I've updated his coaching page. --TT 11:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
I have emailed you. Twenty Years 11:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Take two. Twenty Years 06:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the revert. Seems ive pissed someone off. Atleast one of my user boxes is getting a good workout. Twenty Years 11:06, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chabelo project
Hello mentors we are creating this article about Chabelo, who is a famous Mexican actor. We would thank you if you could help us with this article, it could be with information or corrections. Please put your comments in the discussion page of the article or in our discussion page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Lirdoco#Chabelo_project
- ----- Lirdoco —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pesco88 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Splendid fairywren
Looks fine - add away :) cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Food for thought
- Thanks for that. I knew Ned Kelly's last words were 'such is life' (he copied it off Ben Cousins, I am sure) but I didn't know it was on this day. Thanks again, Auroranorth 08:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I didn't know that I could do that. Do you think the assessments so far have been reasonable? If you don't think so (now or any time in the future) give me a buzz. I'd like to hear you. Auroranorth 11:58, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Script
Regarding Outriggr's script, could you please replace MyTemplateCode (or something like that) with {{WPMILHIST|class=}}. The script is useless without that. Thanks, Auroranorth 12:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Clarification
Secondly the Arbcom ruling that TDC has been referring to had a parole period of 1 year from the Feb 11, 2006, to me that means that the 1R parole finished on 11th February 2007. yet TDC was still saying that Xenophrenic is subject to that arbcom ruling in August 2007diff. Even in September after the CU returned a conclusive unrelated the arbcom ruling was being quoted as the reason for extending the block period diff.
Had Xenophrenic been confirmed as a sockpuupet of Reddi, he would have been subject to sanctioning under Reddi's Arcom decision as many of the violations would have taken place before February 11th 2007. I don’t see how it matters that just because a sockpuupet manages to evade detection until his puppeteer’s sanctions end, those sanctions cannot be enforced on behavior that was not linked between the two until later. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 18:25, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Have you ever considered the possibility that you might be wrong? It's something to think about. Dlabtot 23:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thats the whole point Xenophrenic wasnt confirmed as being a sock puppet, the SSP in August returned an Unrelated result. In the arbcom listing this fact was not being presented and its specifically relevant to the considerations as whether the case is taken up/or not by ARBCOM. Gnangarra 09:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Scarification
Loose ships sink the slips for sure (ah henrietta is such a loose one with her slips)- i might attempt to rise to the occasion of your needing solace for lack of significant obscurity within the community of western branch of the outer region of the known universe (west end rottnest being its furthest point) however a foul mouthed user of the internet cafe seems to have me distracted from the purpose... :( SatuSuro 05:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Re: Vandal reverts
Hey I noticed your user pages are getting hit with a lot of vandalism would you like them to be semi-protected for a little while. Gnangarra 13:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the offer, but protection won't be necessary. I don't mind my user space being vandalized. It's easy enough to detect and revert, and anything that keeps the vandals away from the real articles is a good thing. --Onorem♠Dil 13:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mark John Currie
Thank you for your encouragement. I've added a bit more now. Apuldram 20:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hal
I'm still dancing with Milner over at Hal Gibson Pateshall Colebatch. Would you care to stop the music for a while? Hesperian 03:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] YOU MUST BE KIDDING!
I've notice that you are edit warring on a number of articles additional to this you are being uncivil in your edit summarys and the messages you are leaving on talk pages. This is your last warning continuation of any of these will see your account blocked
YOU MUST BE KIDDING! Why donpt you give this warning to the user Merbabu? It´s him who entered in a lot of articles I had edited, quoted sources, fixed, etc. etc. and began to make massive changes at a lot of things he didn´t like, just because he didn´t like them! He doesn´t even care to quoting sources in his edits, and you send a warning to me?? Emerson —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.41.199.20 (talk) 04:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Nope your the one being uncivill and YELLING at every thing, oh please sign talk page comments Gnangarra 04:50, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I like to be uncivill. It´s better than being biased and a "puxa saco" like yourself! Emerson —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.41.199.20 (talk) 05:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
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- If you didnt know this is a sock User:Domaleixo Gnangarra 11:51, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The guy is back with a third (similar) IP. See List of countries spanning more than one continent He reverted an edit of mine - I have not reverted it yet. I suggest that it needs to be pointed out to him than block means block - perhaps we communicate this by extending his block. he he. thanks. --Merbabu 23:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] ...and more
He's back this time on East Timor. As before using IP 189.41.something. thanks! --Merbabu 13:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Note
Gotcha.
[edit] re comment
Fair point. Have removed it. - Galloglass 13:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Remove what else? - Galloglass 13:15, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Winter Soldier 2
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[edit] Query
Is stating your intention to stonewall a debate going against your opinion against any wikipedia policies? In my mind it may fall under Wikipedia:Disruptive editing#Definition of disruptive editing and editors as rejecting community input. –– Lid(Talk) 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Australia
Thanks for your input but i have only made 1 change to KR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by L.Wadsworth (talk • contribs) 13:05, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- Clarifying I was referring to the reverts on Australia to KR not the KR article Gnangarra 13:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
Thankyou for you polite warning i will log off now and cool down and check back with the world of wiki tomorrow thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by L.Wadsworth (talk • contribs) 13:21, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Arbcom
I have updated my response on the evidence page, and I hope it cajoles you into reviewing your mistaken position there. Torturous Devastating Cudgel (talk) 16:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism on Maddington
Which is why I reverted myself after that addition to the comment when I noticed your reversion. — Rickyrab | Talk 15:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Okeydokes. (OK, whatever) Where I am, it ain't almost midnight, it's 10:40 in the morning or something like that... quite an antipodean conversation....and I wouldn't have known about the slur "Boong" had I not been Googling Wikipedia on the news. — Rickyrab | Talk 15:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm in New Jersey — Rickyrab | Talk 15:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
And Wikipedia time is UTC, right? — Rickyrab | Talk 15:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Anyhow, I'm in UTC-5. UTC-4 during Daylight Savings Time. And since I'm in the Northern Hemisphere, my summer is your winter, and vice versa. How's that for being kooky? :) — Rickyrab | Talk 15:51, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
no wonder people are joking about "boongs" over there. It's probably like "nigger" or something over here (although many of the lower-income areas also have people of Spanish-speaking ancestry, including Mexicans). (Our Aboriginals, Native Americans, are often either in Oklahoma, on some reservation elsewhere, or running casinos, although this is not necessarily true for all Natives.) — Rickyrab | Talk 15:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not necessarily as good at math, but I am good in other areas, such as looking up stuff. And I know how to use calculators. Where I am, I'm not sure if it has ever gotten above 39oC, with the minimum temps being, ummm, perhaps -19oC. — Rickyrab | Talk 16:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- Anyhow, I gotta get back to work. so... talk whenever, ok? :) — Rickyrab | Talk 16:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Beans
- I saw after I had posted it from the page history that it had been there before and that it had been removed. I understand the point about WP:Beans but I am not sure that we should fail to acknowledge that this is a less successful example of managing content / vandals. I suspect a few of us now have the page on our watch list so unsuitable content won't stay up on that page for long. The page history seems to reveal that it was less than successful reversion by Cluebot that disguised the fact that vandalism had occurred - ie the bot reverted some entries but not all. I would prefer that the press reference stayed but don't feel very strongly about it and I understand the Beans perspective. Regards--Matilda formerly known as User:Golden Wattle talk 04:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] ADB
Did you see the conversation at Template talk:ADB? Hesperian 23:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bus drivers
He he. No offence intended to bus drivers - or KR for that matter. It's great there's so much interest out there in updating our articles, but they just have to curb their enthusiasm until inevitable events inevitably occur. Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 05:29, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
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- Good stuff - hey maybe you catchup with mister moondyne? :| SatuSuro 11:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Btw got rid of cacyle/ed stuff in the end - my version of java does not relate to it at all, sigh :( SatuSuro 11:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Wont be long on - have bad jet lag from singers :| SatuSuro 12:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
- Off now might throw in a rejoinder in gmail - cheers SatuSuro 12:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Silver Centenary
No problemo. Great article! I really enjoyed it :) Gatoclass 12:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding...
Regarding the link to User:Auroranorth/Sockpuppets, can I now move it to User:Auroranorth/Otherpages rather than have it on my header and user talk page? Thanks, Auroranorth (!) 05:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] re. Triple crown Aussie's
I'd rather they added themselves to the triple crown list - Cas is already there, but Moondyne and Hesp aren't. I'd be happy to expand on our "award" if they nominated themselves. And you can add yourself if you like :) Dihydrogen Monoxide ♫ 07:31, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
- I was sure you would qualify but it was a lot of work to research. There are quite a few others who would qualify too. Self-nomination would be good but if we all nominated a colleague it might show that we appreciate the efforts of others ... Hesperian isn't interested [1]--Matilda talk 04:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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- I have commented elsewhere - moon and orders talk pages - i think its a bit like my msa awards at the darlington arts festival about four years ago or so - must find a copy and send it (they were the only steam engine that could do mundaring weir without tears or anger) cheers SatuSuro 08:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
A big thank you for getting it to AN/I, as sharply as you did. Got to defend the best of them, even when they go a little overboard. Thanks. Twenty Years 14:59, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia triple crown
[edit] Re: Finally...
Hello Gnangarra - I am not entirely sure what you're trying to say on my talk page. Are you saying that I should stop being coached? Thanks for your compliment - that's great. Auroranorth (!) 07:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- I believe that that is what Gnangarra is saying, and I agree with his comments. Its time for Aurora to move on I reckon. —Moondyne 07:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] (Waa!) Adopt me!
Hello Gnangarra - I am very new here, and having checked the Adopt-a-user program, I am enthusiastic about the possibility that you can coach me. I want to do a lot of stuff here, but I also know that there are so many policies that I must understand. I request that you adopt me - please let me know. Thanks, V i s n a v a 15:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- I understand - thank you. V i s n a v a 16:09, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Category:Eclipse Foundation
Hi Gnangarra - I nominated a category you created in 2006 for deletion. The article on Eclipse Foundation should include its members, but it is IMO overcategorization to include a category for every organization that is a member of every other organization. Lots of organizations do coalitional work, and I think you can see that that could quickly get out of hand -- an organization might have dozens or scores or hundreds of categories. Please feel free to share your thoughts at the discussion, though; the discussion for this category is here. Here are links to the relevant policies that you might want to be familiar with for the discussion: WP:CAT, WP:OCAT, WP:CLS. --Lquilter (talk) 22:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] RfA
Please see my responses to you and to Sarah on my RfA, as they both have to do with Auroranorth and AWB. The Transhumanist (talk) 06:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- I've decided against leaving further comment. Auroranorth (!) 12:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- Drafting up a reply email now. Auroranorth (!) 01:23, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Finished your questions. Auroranorth (!) 10:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Look again... Auroranorth (!) 10:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hi. Re Persondata, yes I agree with all your points, but I'm not really supposed to be on WP right now - I'm meant to be valuing an old radio... see you at 6-ish. Auroranorth (!) 08:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- On the subject of RfAs, I would like to see how an RfA would go sometime early next year. Auroranorth (!) 10:04, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hi. Re Persondata, yes I agree with all your points, but I'm not really supposed to be on WP right now - I'm meant to be valuing an old radio... see you at 6-ish. Auroranorth (!) 08:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Look again... Auroranorth (!) 10:28, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Finished your questions. Auroranorth (!) 10:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- Drafting up a reply email now. Auroranorth (!) 01:23, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Gnangarra is a nice mentor
Is there some sort of trouble? I'll defend his kindness. Horsemen4life (talk)horsemen4life —Preceding comment was added at 09:33, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Are you serious?
Is this really true? You're not yet even 10 years old? That means you were 7 when you made this edit saying you've been driving buses since before you were born? Leap year? Joke? What's the deal?? Friday (talk) 19:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- If Gnang is not even ten, I'm seven-years-old! And (to put it all in perspective), Jimmy's, what, about fifteen? LOL Sarah 00:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- Gnang is technically telling the truth but practically it's a different story. Sarah 00:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- nothing like being practical 9 birthdays in 39 years, 76 days until the next one. Gnangarra 00:06, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- You need to be careful suggesting you are nine-years-old or some caring, upright soul might ring the Department of Child Protection and have your wife arrested. LOL Sarah 16:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe they don't believe in leap years any more, nor santa claus?petedavo (talk) 02:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- I believe in santa, honest politicians(falls over coughing).... Gnangarra 03:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe they don't believe in leap years any more, nor santa claus?petedavo (talk) 02:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- You need to be careful suggesting you are nine-years-old or some caring, upright soul might ring the Department of Child Protection and have your wife arrested. LOL Sarah 16:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- nothing like being practical 9 birthdays in 39 years, 76 days until the next one. Gnangarra 00:06, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] User:Angara Inc.
"moved CSD as it doesnt meet policy requirements -- use WP:MFD"
Note actual policy:
CSD #G11 - Blatant advertising. Pages which exclusively promote some entity and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic. Note that simply having a company or product as its subject does not qualify an article for this criterion.
Not articles, pages. Which is why it's G11 and not A (for "Article) 11. --221.114.141.220 (talk) 23:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks very much!
Thank you for yur support on my RFA, for without you I would be even more ashamed -just joking! Anyhow, can you help me find some places where I can search for more vandals or help me gain some more experience. I would appreciate that! Thanks! Shaggy9872004 (talk) 00:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] V.P. Ganeshan
Thanks for your comments. I've had my fill of nominating things for deletion, for the moment. --Cbdorsett (talk) 06:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] PNG
Hi Gnangarra. I appreciate your input into the Talk:John_Howard#PNG discussions. My own view is that it is a reasonably well known fact about Howard's family history, that many readers know about already. As you remember, the original treatment of the plantation issue was given a lot more space in the article. The present version is much briefer, in fact, I think it is about as brief as it could get, which makes it difficult to find an area of further compromise. Is there any area that could be further compromised which would persuade you to allow a brief and minimalist mention of the PNG connection? A change in the references used, maybe? There were 10 references presented for it. I acknowledge that you and Skyring currently oppose mention. Some other editors oppose a long and detailed account, but would be in favour of a minimalist entry. Let me know if there is any area of it that could be improved to satisfy your concerns. Thanks, Lester 00:24, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply, regarding the connection between Howard and the plantations. I answered it back on the article Talk:John_Howard#PNG page. Offer still open, if you can think of any area for compromise. Regards, Lester 21:16, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Gangarra. After getting some advice, I'm forming the opinion that the only way to reach a consensus with the PNG issue is to take it for a second time to mediation. It's difficult to come to an amicable agreement on the talkpage that will suit all parties, so maybe formal mediation can result in a position that we can abide by. Any thoughts? Cheers, Lester 06:27, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Email
Ill email you it. Cheers Twenty Years 16:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- Enjoy reading them both. Twenty Years 16:24, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tons of Fun University
Hi,
I'm sorry to bother you, but I really don't understand this closure. I can't make sense of what you're saying in the closing remarks -- could you rephrase them, or maybe just re-read them and correct for typos? Right now, the closing doesn't make any sense. Best wishes, Xoloz (talk) 16:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] USS Illinois
I have taken a stab at adressing the concern that you brought up on the FAC. Would you consider taking another look at the article? TomStar81 (Talk) 20:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Milner
Finally got the message. Hip hip hooray! [2] Hesperian 22:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] HofWA
As Stannage alludes to, thats what comes of official sponsorship—current day politicians and notables dominate. But paradoxically he also points out that the non-biography section was the first time a serious effort was made to document pre-1870 material. Battye's Cyclopaedia (1913) is more balanced as I recall, if not with the same level of biographical detail. —Moondyne 00:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Block of User:Boehner
I saw your post at WP:ANI about your 24 hour block of User:Boehner and was wondering if a username block wouldn't be more appropriate. If you don't know where I'm coming from, sound the user's name out in your head and you'll certainly see it then. Let me know if you would be willing to consider lengthening the block. Thanks! Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 04:34, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- Re: Heh, I brought it up with you instead of on ANI since I'm an admin too and you're the blocking admin. Since you chose a 24 hour editing block, you could reblock indef (to cover the username) with autoblock and prevent account creation on (since they last for 24 hours) to cover your editing block and the indef block for the username violation. If you'd prefer not to do anything, though, I'll just indef block the username when your 24 hour block expires. Let me know what you'd prefer to do. :-) Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 05:12, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Avondale Agricultural Research Station
GA nomination on hold, mate. — Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 07:12, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
- And it looks good after the hard work you put it. You can admire it soon I expect.Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Done Done and 
Passing :) Cheers, — Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 09:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sean Simmans's Page
My father, Sean Simmans, had a page here on Wikipedia and today, when I wanted to take a look at it, I found out that it was deleted. Deleted by you. I would like to know why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.197.230.97 (talk) 08:23, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry to butt in but you should see the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sean Simmans, the text is at User:Hiding/Sean Simmans Paul foord (talk) 08:29, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Okay, so it's not totally deleted, but it is hidden. Which makes no sense. FREEDOM OF FREAKING SPEECH! (Or in this case the PRESS [kind of].) People should be allowed to view knowledge without through "hidden" things. It doesn't make any sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.197.230.97 (talk) 08:40, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia isnt the "Press" its an encyclopedia as such have a set of criteria by which its decided if a subject is considered notable, when another editor see an article they dont think meets the criteria then they start a discussion. In the case of Sean Simmans it was determined that while he doesnt meet the criteria, an article on the comic strip does. Hiding (talk · contribs) requested that the Sean article be placed in user space so that he could combine the information in to the comic strip article.Gnangarra 08:52, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
