Talk:Glossary of climbing terms

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This page is far from complete, but I'm kind of bored of it now. So far I've concentrated on (sport) climbing, so maybe one of the mountaineers around here can add the glossary items that I'm not qualified to do myself. Stewart Adcock 04:48, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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[edit] Climbing technique

Anyone have a better, less-cyclic, definition for "climbing technique"? Stewart Adcock 05:58, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

[edit] crux

"Crux: The most difficult portion of a climb, usually near the top." Really? in my experience that's definitely not the usual case! (even without factoring out my lack of stamina ;) ) Stewart Adcock 04:29, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Well, when it comes to scrambling routes, it always seems to be the case! It's definitely never at the bottom. :-) I guess I could clarify that by adding something like:
For scramblers, this always seems to be near the top.
RedWolf 05:34, Dec 2, 2003 (UTC)
On further reflection, it's probably best if the phrase is just removed. Whomever next edits the page can remove it. RedWolf 07:19, Dec 2, 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Page moved

I just moved this page here (i.e., a rename) to fit more closely with Wikipedia convention (see Category:Lists of terms). I will come back later today to fix all the redirects. - dcljr 19:11, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

  • I really don't like the new name. Unlike most other list articles, links within the glossary are referred to by other articles. This should have been discussed before the page move was done. RedWolf 03:59, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC)
    • Comment: I am neutral on the page move, except that when I check "what links here", it appears that dcljr did not go back and fix all the links to the page. This needs to be remedied. Kevyn 13:22, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure what you mean. On September 14th, as advertized, I changed all the links except those on user and talk pages. See? - dcljr 19:06, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Other terms...

Some other terms for holds I've heard that may or may not be actual rock climbing terms are:

  • Turtle - a hold that looks like the back of a turtle shell, with little or no concavity to get your fingers into. Holding one of these is like palming a basketball.
  • Nub - a teeny little hold that only a few fingers can grip, or the tips of the toes.

I don't know if these are in common use, in fact I think the turtle was made up by a little kid, but they seem very descriptive. --Ignignot 16:12, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

I have heard "Nub", but have never heard "Turtle." There are undoubtedly regional and national differences in terminology, all of which should be reflected in a glossary. Regardless, we should, ahem, treat this like any real article and use sources. Or consensus. ;) Cheers, -Willmcw 10:41, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anchors

Just noticed that the change of markup i did in Sept broke all the little intra-page definition links, as the individual definitions don't create anchors like subsection headings do. The Help:List does say "Use these real definition lists instead of fake ones" and I feel that the markup is now neater, so one could either replace the anchors there now with links to the letter section the def appears in (e.g. [[#D|dihedral]]), or remove the links (doesn't every browser have a search-in-page feature by now?) and make some indication that a definition of that term appears elsewhere here (by bolding it or something). (And if noone says anything, I'll do the [[#D|dihedral]] thing.) Frencheigh 02:40, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok, sounds good to me. Lhclayton

I added "send." It has become popular in the twin cities area and even an event was named after it, i.e. "summer send": a small comp at lifetime fitness in plymouth. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mcsven (talkcontribs) 01:02, June 14, 2006 (UTC)

btw comp is short for competition i didnt see it on there but i dunno if it should be added —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mcsven (talkcontribs) 01:05, June 14, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slab

Slab is a "a less-than-vertical rock face or surface" see wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slab The definition in the present article is wrong, to my knowledge. Emmanuel —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.217.54.88 (talk • contribs) 07:02, February 21, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ascend Six

I have removed the "Ascend Six" term. I have not heard of it before and a google search did not show any relevant results to confirm it, although I am not saying conclusively that this is not a valid term to appear here. However, the statement about Antarctica not having mountain ranges is entirely false so that's another reason why I'm suspicious of the term.

;Ascend Six : Expresses a climber's goal of ascending the six largest peaks on the six main continents. (Since Antarctica is not considered to have a mountain range, these climbs include: Everest, Aconcagua, Mt. McKinley, Kilimanjaro, Elbrus, and Mt. Kosciuszko.)

RedWolf 15:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] wiktionary?

Wouldn't this list be better in wiktionary? To me, it seems a bit out of place in an encyclopedia... Brianski 23:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Sport vs Trad climbing

I tried to give both styles of climbing as neutral POV as I could, but anyone that has a better understanding of each of these "philosophies" of climbing can probably do a better job than I can. Robogymnast 21:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)