Talk:Glory (film)

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-I have made a minor numerical adjustment to the casualty rate at Fort Wagner (a difference of 16), based on another wikipedia article. This other article is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/54th_Massachusetts_Volunteer_Regiment I apolagize if the correction was in error, if someone with more time would like to look into this and figure out which figure was correct, please do so. (For reference the original article stated 256 deaths) -orionriver 20:45 (PST) 1/23/07 -Do you know why the movie was called Glory? I don't. Help me.

In the commentary the director simply says "It just came to me." Which isn't much help! The Singing Badger 21:35, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

A few years ago, original newspaper reports and other written sources from the period resurfaced which higlighted a Bermudian, First Sgt. Simmons, who served in the Regiment, and (in a newspaper report, given variously as being from a Charleston or a Georgia newspaper) who said he had fought for glory. This was apparently the first report of the battle published (at least in a Southern newspaper). It didn't give Simmon's name, but other sources clarify that. It was pointed out by the historian who brought this material forward that this report would not have been know to the film makers, so it's merely an interesting coincidence. I tacked in a mention of Simmons in this article, and in the one on the Regiment. Aodhdubh 18:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Incidentally, the Royal Gazette [1], of Bermuda, reported that the newspaper article refered to above was in the Weekly Colombus Enquirer, but the website of Historian Mark Mitchell [2] records it as the Charleston Daily Courier: the archive also contains the first newspaper report of the brave but failed attack in the Charleston (SC) Daily Courier including an interview with a captured black sergeant from Bermuda, Robert John Simmons. Aodhdubh 18:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

-In the article it is stated that the depiction of the african american soldiers was historically inaccurate, but an accurate account is not provided. Someone who knows the truth ought to amend this.

-I'm not good at writing movie summaries which is why I didn't try to write one, but a better one should be added.

I saw this movie in class, i've got to say that this movie was good. Khang 15:36, 29 2006 (UTC)

- I'm a wikipedia newbie, and I don't feel comfortable editing articles just yet, so I'll note an erratum here, and somebody else can edit the article. In a list of differences between the film and history, it is stated: The 54th was not in fact the only all-black regiment; so many men signed up to enlist that a sister regiment was formed, the 55th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry. The other black regiment actually is depicted in the film, in a scene beginning at about the 1 hour, 4 minute mark. Capedia 22:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

That's a completely different regiment. The referenced 55th Regiment was a unit formed from the surplus of recruits from the 54th camp [3]. --† Ðy§ep§ion † ^{Speak your mind} 05:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

- Article stated that it was based parially on Shaw's "own memoirs". As Shaw was KIA at Battery Wagner, as depicted in the film, it's safe to say that he never lived to write any memoirs! Input of Shaw's words were from his letters home, as noted in the intro to the film.209.158.189.54 15:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Sergeant William Carney 1.1 stuff 1.2 Shaw's Burial 2 Biography vs. Plot

[edit] Sergeant William Carney

Sergeant William Carney was the only flag bearer that day for the national flag. He was wounded several times but he never had to relieve anyone. The previous statement which mentioned that "When the flag bearer fell, another black soldier, Sergeant William Carney grabbed the flag and carried it" was incorrect. He carried the flag straight throughout the battle despite being severely wounded which is part of the reason why he received the Medal of Honor. --† Ðy§ep§ion † ^{Speak your mind} 18:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Whoops. I stand corrected. I never heard of the story of Sgt. Wall who was the original flag bearer that day. My fault! --† Ðy§ep§ion † ^{Speak your mind} 19:51, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] stuff

I was just watching the movie. The anamolies section said the men went forward without bayonets fixed even though Shaw ordered them to fix bayonets. It's the other way around: the men went forward WITH bayonets fixed even though Shaw HAD NOT ordered them to fix bayonets. So I just fixed thatParallelPain 00:13, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Good point. In one scene they clearly don't have the bayonets on, yet in the scene immediately after that they are shown charging with bayonets fixed. C d h (talk) 14:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shaw's Burial

Regarding the recent deletion of my edit describing the manner of Shaw's burial, my edit was not an act of vandalism. I read a great deal about Shaw several years ago, and I'm sure I remember reading that he was stripped of his uniform before being buried. Has anyone else heard this? I will try to locate a source for it, though perhaps I have remembered incorrectly. Marsoult (talk) 11:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I read about this too. His sword was actually found years later in the attic of a Confederate veteran which was later returned to his family. ----Ðysepsion † ^{Speak your mind} 16:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Biography vs. Plot

Why do we list biographies of characters, rather than a regular plot summary? Sonicsuns (talk) 18:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

We definitely need to either get rid of the empty "Synopsis" section, or someone should actually fill it with facts. --Vamptvo (talk) 20:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)