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The article is not positive. There is more bad stuff then there is good. It does not meet Wikipedia's outlines for 'positive' overviews. Rebecca Rowland 06:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't see how the article is "bad." The section is labeled controversy, and it explains the background behind it. Just because a group is involved in a controversy doesn't make the group bad, nor does discussing it make the article bad. The reader takes from it what they will. --Tandalo 19:56, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Excuse me, Rebecca, but what 'outlines' are you referring to? I'm unfamiliar with anything which supports the particular interpretation of WP:NPOV you seem to be calling for here. -- Antaeus Feldspar 20:03, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Rebecca, there isn't really much "information" here. The article is just like saying "this is a pen". A pen is used to write. The problems with the pen is that it sometimes screws up. Sometimes, when an exam is approaching, the pen stops working. it isn't really helpful ;) Danielle Cooley 10:36, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] = Criticism?

How is this a criticism? And where is the reference?

Another criticism is sourced from the charity with which Gloria Jean Australia primarily supports: Mercy Ministries, a work of the Darlene Zschech (pastor of Hillsong Church).

--Scott Davis Talk 09:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

This seems to indicate a lack of neutrality. The article phrases itself so that at first glance gloria and hillsong seem unrelated, as for Mercy Ministries it might be a concern that the article describes the initiative so positively in light of abuse allegations

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23387558-2,00.html
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/they-prayed-to-cast-satan-from-my-body/2008/03/16/1205602195122.html?page=fullpage
Mrspyro (talk) 03:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question?

Just looking around on the internet, I'm not sure this article is entirely correct.
So far I've found two claims as to the founders of Gloria Jeans Coffee:
1) Gloria Jean Kvetko, 1979 (Chicago,USA)
2) Jireh International, 1996 (Sydney, Australia)
Which one is which?
http://www.gloriajeans.com/t-gloriaJeansStory.aspx (USA) says it was founded in 1979.
http://www.gloriajeanscoffees.com.au/pages/content.asp?pid=9 (Australia) says it was founded in 1996.
Both companies use the same logo. Is Gloria Jeans an American company and not an Australian company as the article states?

Answer: Gloria Jean's Coffees was founded by Gloria Jean Kvetko in 1979 in Chicago, USA. In 1996 Gloria Jean's Coffees was introduced into Australia by Jireh International Pty Ltd. Jireh International Pty Ltd is a wholly Australian owned company. Jireh International Pty Ltd holds the the right to franchise the rights Gloria Jean's Coffees in Australia, and in 2005 purchased the rights to the Gloria Jean's Coffees brand for all international countries (with the exception of the USA and Puerto Rico).

[edit] Irvine photo & Mercy Ministries reference

I have moved the Peter Irvine photo to the section in which he is mentioned, and restored the Gloria Jean's overall logo to the top of the page. This is because the Gloria Jean's logo is relevant to the entire article while the Irvine photo is only relevant to one section.

I am not convinced that the Mercy Ministries/irvine reference is worth including in this article at all, and would be interested in the views of others.Euryalus 06:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Good move on the picture changing. I personally think the Mercy Ministries stuff is worthwhile information about the organisational ethos of GJ, or at least in upper management. As such I think it should be kept. While it's not directly relevant to the operation of the stores it is something I initially heard as an urban legend (i.e. that GJ was owned by Hillsong) and it's useful to have wikipedia to clear that up. My two cents. mjec 09:44, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)