Talk:Glitch (music)
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[edit] Additional Artists
Does anyone think that Autechre and Squarepusher belong to this category? -asmadeus 21:43, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yes, and maybe no. Autechre, I see has been added. Squarepusher I would be very hesitant to add. Aphex Twin would be an easy addition, though he is not as 'glitchy' as Autechre. I will add him now. --Nick 05:16, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
squarepusher no? of course he should!!!!!
also Wrong design
Autechre yes, Squarepusher and Venetian Snares are closer to Breakcore, I really feel the need to remove them. Glitch simulates the sound of skipping CDs, breakcore is just very intense breakbeat music.
As well, Coil is on here, as a huge Coil fan I find this questionable in the extreme. Furthermore, they are under 'Notable Artists' ?! Even's Coils' 'Worship the Glitch' has almost no glitch in it. For the most part, their music is ambient and spoken word.
- In my opinion, none of them are glitch at all! Glitch is stuff like Nobukazu Takemura's Scope or especially Oval - stuff which sounds like malfunctioning equipment, what with skipping samples, wobbly ambient-like sounds, etc. The aim of glitch music was initially a somewhat deconstructive effort involving the radical "remixing" of various sources into something utterly irrecognisable which, precisely, sounds like a skipping CD. Also, traditional glitch has the tendance to avoid drum machines and synthesizers, working only with samples, and with an enormous focus on the way in which digital audio works, and the way that digital audio processing devices are, and their byproducts, faults, eventualities, etc (i.e. glitches.) After that, some people imitated the technique without the theorical back-up, and even made variations which overlap with techno, etc. However, Autechre and Aphex Twin come from a techno background which has nothing to do with this (and actually predates Oval by some years - Systemisch has been confirmed to be made mostly out of samples from AFX's SAW II! Listen to the track "Compact Disc" - it's quite recognisably Aphex Twin's "Radiator"), and Squarepusher comes from a jazz and jungle background, so I don't think any of them are glitch at all! That's why I had deleted them... I'm sorry about not asking!
About Venetian Snares, some of their work definitely resembles a cd skipping ("Unborn Baby" anyone?), but probably not enough to warrant a mention here. Probably; I've not heard all his work. Ours18 15:33, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey, no-one bite my head off cos I'm only really discovering this stuff now but...Figurine? Yes? No? I'm just interested to see if it counts as Glitch, because Dntel's on here and...yeah. Thoughts? NZHC 04:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Venetian Snares and Squarepusher are both definitely glitch among other things. Squarepusher is not breakcore by any means, though Snares is. T-1 20:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] re-add royalty-free or fair-use sample please
Can someone please re-add a link or upload of appropriately licensed example music depicting this genre? The current link appears to be dead. here may be a place to look for open-source music examples. Thanks! dr.ef.tymac 01:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sources
I'd like to see some sources that point out how this "genre" was defined and by who. "Genre" definitions don't just pop out of thin air (though much of the underground press would seem to think so). Cheers! --NightMonkey 19:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] re: Cascone electronica quote
Cascone's post-digital article makes reference to electronica in terms of it being a blanket term for all electronic dance music, but quite simply, it's wrong.
Thisis the earliest supporting doc I can find online but it serves to make the point:
"In 1995, Electronica has become a nanotechnology, refrying the atoms of other musics into strange new hybrids. In the process, a lattice of invisible, interconnected networks has emerged to link disparate but like-minded musicians, labels and festivals. Rob Young maps the co-ordinates of the new urban music" WIRE
It was the US music industry who started using the word electronica as an umbrella term for all forms of so called "vernacular" electronic music (non-academic) including many styles of electronic dance music. This is not the way things are seen in the UK (at least not by those who remember when this term frist started being use and what it's use described). In this sense it is incorrect to use the word electronica to refer to a collection of musics which can clearly be seen as specific genres in their own right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.117.78.169 (talk) 22:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
