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[edit] Thank you

Thank you for writing and letting me know. It is very much appreciated. All the best. Figaro 12:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you also for your further comments to me. I appreciate them very much. All the best. Figaro 13:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for mentioning the comment you have made. I apologise for my angry responses on the user's page regarding the situation. I am a peaceable person by nature and do not care for disputes. Once again, thank you. All the best. Figaro 13:39, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Schizophrenia article reverting

Hi there, many thanks for your concern. As you can see from the talk page and the archived talk pages of the schizophrenia article, the person whose edits I keep reverting persistently edits the article with their own point of view despite numerous reviews which have concluded that the relevant material is balanced and verifiable. Their actions are now at the point of vandalism. This has been reported but so far nothing has been done. I am fully aware of the three revert rule, and have complied with this in the past. All that has meant is that material from the article remains blanked while months pass until the issue is temporarily resolved. Then the user returns to do the same. Myself and the other editors of the article are now reverting this vandalism, which is in line with Wikipedia policy and exempt from the 'three revert rule'. Please read the numerous discussions and reviews on the talk page for further details. [Also posted to my discussion page] - Vaughan 12:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR on Smee

Hi. Please revisit that 3RR, I left a message for you there. Thanks --Justanother 18:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching - would you like a new student?

I see that your coachee, Riana dzasta, is now an admin! (Woo hoo!) Would you like to take on a new student? Let me know and I'll try to match you with one. Cheers, Fang Aili talk 19:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re:Comment:

Yes sir, I will grow up. May I note though, that those phrases were in fact phrase you said to me. When I said they were uncivil, you did indeed say they were not. So how is it, when you say they are not uncivil, that you don't like it when you are on the recieving end of the same comments. I will grow up, but I suggest you admit you did wrong & accept that you made regretful, uncivil comments that are hurtful & that you shouldn't have said them considering you are an admin. That is all. :) Spawn Man 08:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC) P.S. Do you & Sarah have a thing for each other, because you are very aggressive when comments are amde towards her. Do you feel she needs to have her battles fought for her? all you've done is further my point & show that those comments were indeed hurtful & that you can't take your poisonous medecine back can you?

[edit] Spawn Man blocked

I'm not making the same mistake as last time, so I blocked Spawn Man for his comments. I wish last time that I'd blocked him before he got so out of control. Hopefully the cool down time will help him gain some composure. —Doug Bell talk 08:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Admin Coach

Hey Glen, thanks.

I humbly accept your offer of admin coaching.

There is really no-one I'd rather have coaching me and I'm sure I could greatly benefit from your experience and guidance. Thanks again, Dfrg.msc 22:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ode to the helpful admin

I spend a lot of time patrolling Recent Changes,
Looking for destruction that's been wrought on our pages,
There are more silly people than I could possibly handle,
So thank you blocking The J man annoying vandal. --Dweller 12:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comment from Dweller

Hey Glen, I got this on my talk page, perhaps you can make sense of it:

If you could post at User:Glen S's talk page and draw his attention to my talk page, I'd be grateful, for reasons that will be obvious once you go there. Thanks, old boy. --81.144.177.106 16:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC) (Dweller in disguise)

Cheers! The Rambling Man 17:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC) Hi, thanks for reverting. In the odd minute or two it worked, I could see how useful the tools would be. Is it possible to add bits of the code in without all of it? Perhaps without popups, (that frankly I find a bit bug-ridden) some of the most useful tools would work without killing my laptop... --Dweller 12:33, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] RE: Spencesucks banning

My name is Spence, I used to have the name spencerocks, which is my e.mail. Recently I have had people following me around the internet and harassing me. So I have changed it to spence sucks to prevent this. Which is also less egotistical.

The name was not an attack at anyone. I find it hard to believe you think it would be. Sucks is not a particularly offensive term anyway, in modern society. If it were fuck, nigger, cunt or shit I would understand.

Please remove the ban as soon as possible. The internet is a place for free speech, I will use my name of choice to represent myself across the internet.

Thanks in advance.

- Spence, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.143.13.118 (talk) 14:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Intelligent Design

I unprotected, Glen, as you suggested; thanks for the input. By the way, the protected2 tag is full protection; sprotected2 is the semi-protect one. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 14:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cascading protection

Please do not use cascading protection, as you did on User talk:Glen S/Header, unless applying full protection. See bug 8796 for details. --cesarb 23:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James K Polk article

I am somewhat new; my watchlist contains about 20 articles or so. Of all of these, only the James K. Polk article is frequently abused. You flagged one, coming from User talk:67.188.80.121, who defaced the article with "sex, sex baby". But various IP addresses -- up to 20 -- have been used in the past month to deface this article. Where is the proper venue to address this?

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[edit] Hello again

I've done what I suggested above and reinstated some of the (more helpful sounding) tools. So far, so good... If I've inadvertently done something wrong by leaving out some lines of code, please let me know, or revert as appropriate. They seem very useful. Thanks so much for bringing this to my attention.

On a related topic, I'm minded to think that these "non admin tools" should be part of the debate that flares up here and there about giving a temporary admin status... --Dweller 11:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Bah and phooey

Gonna have to get rid of them. How do admins' tools work? Are they monobooks plug ins? --Dweller 15:48, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] thank you

thank you for deleting the bears of qwerty page so quickly vanis 06:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Essjay

I reverted your deletion, as has been done with other such deletions in Essjay's absence, as he states on the page:

Do not, under any circumstances, remove posts from this page without my permission. Non-vandalism posts, regardless of merit, should not be removed or reverted; anyone observing the removal of information from this page by anyone other than myself should blanket revert on sight.

Tyrenius 06:18, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I thought maybe you hadn't spotted it. Apparently that's what's happened earlier. Essjay's note is a bit ambiguous, but I interpreted it as meaning only things like blanking or large obscene pictures etc should be removed, and actual messages should be left. It doesn't particularly worry me either way. Maybe it's not too important for him either at the moment... Tyrenius 07:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree with you! Tyrenius 07:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Justanother request for warning

Glen, User:Justanother was upset with my user page due to some statements I made connecting the church of scientology to a few users who have edited wikipedia in a destructive fashion User_talk:Fahrenheit451#Your_user_page_.22tips.22. He wanted me to remove some of the wording. I instructed him to propose suggestions on my discussion page User_talk:Justanother#My_tips. Instead he created a test page from my user page User:Fahrenheit451/test. This is contrary to what I instructed and is rather poor etiquette. I have since removed the content from the page, but would like the "test page" removed. I request he be warned about creating pages against the wishes of other users.--Fahrenheit451 11:31, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Glen.--Fahrenheit451 11:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Username

  • I see that certain individuals have done something called "usurp", for usernames... I think that "Smee" is still available, and would like to change my username to that. How do I go about doing this? Smee 12:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC).
Do I have to go through that process, or is there an easier way, as that particular username (and thus User) don't even exist yet? In other words, the username is up for grabs, I just don't know the logistics of switching over... Smee 12:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC).
Did I do it correctly? Thanks for your help/time. Smee 12:31, 3 March 2007 (UTC).

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[edit] Happy Spread-the-funny and-slighty-random-love day!

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[edit] Sid Haig Page

Hi there Glen. I don't know if you recall but several months ago you helped me get Sid's page together with his Bio that I wrote and is on our website. I had them post the license, etc, and then worked to get the page NPOV, yadda yadda yadda...eventually I got the article from a stub to a Class B. I was so proud! Until today when I logged on and saw what I am about to lay out for you now. A user (Rcarey1979), who has been vandalizing his page with the same POV nonsense since 11/4/06, is back and really causing drama. She has opened complaints against me, saying I am YOU for some reason, and claiming other falsehoods that you and I were both here for when we were working on his page. She has also made a lot of work for CyberGhostface and myself having to revert her posts on Sid's page. She complains that by doing this we are trying to keep it "a press room" and "a puff piece". Isn't that the exact opposite of all the work I did to the page to make it NPOV??? I think so. I also think that the Wiki review board would not have rated it Class B if it was "a puff piece". I give them more credit than that. If you could provide some input or insight into this matter, I would very much appreciate it. She also claims I bully and threaten her. I would like to know how and where, as everything on this site gets logged. She should take care in making claims she can not provide evidence for. This is silly, and needs to end now. I have better, more constructive things to do than spank a child, and I am sure you do as well. Thanks in advance. Spirot 04:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You!

Thanks very much, Glen. This whole thing is so silly...hopefully it stops here. Spirot 06:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abuse/Slander From User Spirot

Glen, look at Spirot's comments here. He continues to be extremely insultive and continues to accuse me and (and many others) of vandalism. I really do not see how this abusive, angry attitude that does anything to faciliate resolution of this issue. I am getting fed up with being repeatedly accused of "vandalism" and "Stalking Sid" (??!!!) because this person takes issue with a verified, factual item I posted. Does he get warnings about this behavior Glen? Is it perfectly fine to slander other users with baseless accusations of stalking people???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rcarey1979 (talkcontribs) March 6, 2007.

I have said what I need to, and I leave this to the admins of this site to decide. I will not be leaving messages all over as this does no one any good. This is the second, and last, for the day. Thank you, Glen, for trying. The page is under semi-protection until this is resolved, so there can't be any "hanky panky". Knowing this, I really have nothing further to do but wait. (Btw - the comment above this is from Rcarey, who I guess just didn't sign off on it, but I'm sure you know that) Spirot 04:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] If she's done, why was this posted?

It seems it just could not be ended without one last stab from her, so here it is, from the Sid Haig talk page:[1]

"CyberGhostface you have gone from making some valid points about the item's not being appropriate for the Sid article, to sounding like Spirot. Making comments like "If you had done nothing worth reporting, you wouldn't have suspiciously deleted it." are just idiotic. First off, who are you to question my integrity. You didn't ask me why I took this action, but you are now stupidly making accusations towards me. I actually was going to thank you for make some valid points I your earlier postings, but you have just taken on the air of a someone conducting a witch hunt. First off, I posted the item FACTUALLY, without any abusive tone. I was then called every name on earth by Sid's zealotic fans. I said I was suprised that a man like Sid Haig did not know what 'Night Of The Living Dead' was about, and he did not! It suprised me, and I was abused for it. Your saying "You must have done something, because you deleted this, and that is just lacking in logic. You castigate me for jumping to conclusions about you working for Sid, and then you state I must be hiding something! I do not appreciate being called a liar! I do not appreciate your lack of graciousness. I expected this from someone like Spirot, but know you are following suit and, essentially telling me that you have no interest in resolving this issue despite my REPEATED invitations to do so. I do not hear you say one word about Spirot calling me a "stalker". Is that behavior fine with you?? and As for what Spirot posted maybe you should read Wiki policy about personal attacks using external links:

"Posting a link to an external source that fits the commonly accepted threshold for a personal attack, in a manner that incorporates the substance of that attack into Wikipedia discussion, including the suggestion that such a link applies to another editor, or that another editor needs to visit the external source containing the substance of the attack."

I've never had a problem on imdb that required anyone taking action against me. But do you know that Sid Haig and his girlfriend/publicist were thrown off imdb for their behavior? See Cyber Ghostface Sid and his "companion" got thrown off imdb, so by your logic he MUST be guilty of something! Maybe the editors over at imdb are stalking Sid too! Sid seems to have lots of stalkers according to some.

Can we have an article on Sid's page about his war with imdb, and how he tried to sue imdb to have a poster on the message boards removed? I would think that would be relevant, or would it be taken down right away as 'NPOV' or something else?? Doe's Sid's girlfriend/publicist/co-litigant post on Wiki by the way?

All I did a few months ago around Halloween was to be watching TCM and happened to see Sid Haig mention the "Eat brains to survive" noted it on his message board, and Spirot and the others went crazy on me. Then I mention it on here, Glen_S takes it down because it lacks a source I find the source, and re-post it and Spirot, who puts everything, and anything he/she wants on this page removes it and makes accusations, rather than what you said initially.

Do I need to check with Spirot and his friend/moderator Glen_S if I have the audacity to want to post an item about Sid. Spirot cries for me to be banned. And I do not believe that Glen who is impartial as a moderator should be. I get warned by Glen and Spirot is told if rcarey does it again let me know, I'll block her, instead of engaing in a dialogue. I fear that I will be banned from Wiki based on this sort of overt favoritism. Perhaps I am overreacting, but I have asked you more than once to discuss this, so that we can resolve this issue, and all you have done is respond without answering. I am surmising based on your irrelevant responses that you have no interest in resolving this issue.

Instead of speaking with me you contact Spirot and state: "Yeah, don't worry about it. Frankly, I was willing to reason with her until I read about her stalking Sid on IMDB. Now its 100% obvious its just a personal vendetta.

I'm Mephistopheles from the TDR boards, btw.--CyberGhostface 04:32, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

That is really open minded of you!

This issue really needs to addressed with mediation! I was actually going to say that you had a point about my posting the item and wanted to talk to you about this in order to resolve this issue as soon as possible, but this is obviously a waste of time, and you are no more rational than Spirot!

As for Spirot leaving this issue to the administrators, I would ask that the administrators look at my posts on other articles on Wiki to see if I have ever engaged in the sort of behavior that Spirot regularly accuses many people of. I would also ask the administrators if they feel that the angry rantings that Spirot regularly leaves on history pages:

1) Spirot accuses me of Vandalism on imdb! I have never had any problems on imdb, nor have I ever been warned by them. You are welcome to contact imdb about my postings. On the other hand, Sid Haig, and his "girlfriend" have been newspapermen banned by imdb, if that information is relevant.

Would it be "stalking Sid" to request that the topic of Sid's legal battle with imdb be incorporated into Sid's page? If it should not be why not.

I honestly made efforts to discuss this issue with the parties involved, but all I am getting is accusations of stalkings, deletion of items and bullying.

I have had no problems with anyone on Wikipedia, until I posted a factual, verified item!

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sid_Haig""


So now what? Just leave it be and hope she actually does stop this nonsense? As I have said, I am leaving this to you folks, so what you guys think should be done is good by me. Her claim against me is also still open, which I find interesting.[2] Let me know, please.Spirot 06:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal on the loose

I just reverted several instances of user User talk:65.169.41.4 vandalizing random pages - and I see many warnings on his/her page - perhaps it's time to block the little bugger again? Can you take care of this, or is there a formal procedure I need to follow? Let me know, as I could be doing more useful editing than sweeping up behind some brat. Thanks!! Magichands 21:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks again

For all your help! Spirot 04:38, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request on User:Justanother

Glen, it appears that Justanother is attempting to bring a scuffle he has with another user onto my discussion page. User_talk:Fahrenheit451#Your_user_page_.22tips.22. There is no request for assistance, just negative references to my userpage. He needs to stop this stuff.--Fahrenheit451 05:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] User:82.193.172.44

Please can you block this user, he is a persistant anon vandal, seeing as how you have warned him before, I thought I would Ask you, cheers. 1B6 11:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] cheers

thanks for the block, good day. 1B6 11:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Niceto have an admin pop in. Believe it or not, it isn't a subject I'm particularly interested in, but it's probably for the best that more experienced editors aren't working on it too much given the high sentiments involved. My only objective is to try and keep it on focus, though it is getting trying. The attaboy is most appreciated. Risker 09:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, and I do sincerely apologize for the edit warring as I try not to play the 3RR limit card if I can avoid it. Of course now he has someone else who agrees with him on the doomsday version...[3] --tjstrf talk 10:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request on Essjay controversy

I understand why you wanted to end the edit wars. But could you please eliminate the article's one fact tag with a ref cite to the "times" footnote, which discusses Essjay's use of his false credentials in content disputes? This fact tag puts the article into the "unsourced statements" category, which is unfair to the many editors who have tried to support every statement. It's also misleading to the many outsiders checking on Wikipedia's coverage of this matter. Thank you. Casey Abell 16:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question about Sid's bio

How do I get the BLP notice off the discussion page? We both know the source for this bio, should it be documented on the page somehow to get that "warning" (if that's what it is) to go away? It wasn't there a week ago, I don't think. I mean, the board wouldn't have rated it a B if it was poorly sourced, would they? I'm a bit confused, but if the answer is a simple source link somewhere, that's easy enough. Let me know, please. Thanks! Spirot 04:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


Ok, I get it. It's always there as a warning. Cool. Thanks again! Spirot 04:28, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The pest has another question...

What are the + and - numbers about? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spirot (talkcontribs) 04:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Finished!

Hey Glen! I've finally finished my Admin coaching questions. Sorry about the time it took, the incredible difficulty and my AMA case slowed me some. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 06:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New article.

  • Newly created article - Scieno Sitter - highly sourced, was discussed on the A & E program Investigative Reports and in the movie The Bridge (film). Check it out and let me know what you think on the article's talk page. Thanks for your time. Smee 08:31, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Image needed.

  • I tagged the talk page of the article Scieno Sitter with "reqphoto". I was wondering if it were possible to include a screenshot from the movie The Bridge (film)? If you have a copy of the film, check out the screenshot displayed at 12:17 into the film, and let me know what you think. Just technically, I don't know how to to a screencapture like that. Yours, Smee 16:42, 9 March 2007 (UTC).
    • Nevermind, thanks for your time. Smee 18:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Removing revisions on my userspace

When I made my User page, I didn't realize that Google would list it. Some of the information I put in there was a bit too identifying and I removed it.

However, all of this infomation still exists in past revisions. Can all of the revisions for my User page be deleted? 70.100.171.218 10:50, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


Yes, I do. Landus Mikain 10:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. 70.100.171.218 02:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project updates...

  • I have done some updating to the WP:SCN, added some new articles, added a "to do" list to the top of the project, and fixed up some categories and assessment stuff. I suggest we should all pick one article at a time, or at most two, to work on bringing up to Featured Article status. You could give input on the project's talk page... Smee 20:53, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] SH Page

Ooops, my bad! Archiving sounds good. Also, still wondering about those numbers. (see "the pest" post here) Spirot 04:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


  • Sigh* This is what I get for webbing with a headache...duh. Thanks!

Spirot 04:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trapped in the Closet

As a member of WikiProject Scientology, may I kindly ask you take a look at Trapped in the Closet (South Park) for grammar mistakes and such? I worked hard on getting the article thus far, and in order to get it to FA status (or at least A), the main thing it currently needs is copyediting. It would be very appreciated. Thanks. Michaelas10 (Talk) 12:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Vandalism

Hi Glen. I'm writing because I noticed that several months ago you left a rather stern warning on the talk page of IP 24.151.46.3. That being the case, you might want to have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tabby_cat&diff=prev&oldid=114663725. While we're on the subject, I wonder if you could tell me what you told 70.100.171.218 (who also appears to be Landus Mikain), above, in response to his question about eliminating the history of his user page. Feel free to have a look at the edit history of my heavily vandalized user page, and you'll see why I'm asking. Buck Mulligan 01:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sid Haig Talk Page

Hi Glen, could you please archive that little spat on the talk page for me? I have NO clue how to do that... Thank you!!! =) Spirot 02:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hey

Hey Glen, long time no see! Hope you're doing great. I just got renamed (much like yourself - congratulations :) ) and I'm clearing out old subpages, but I noticed you have links to some of my old archives - 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 - at User:Glen/WL3. Just wondering whether you need me to hold on to those subpages, or if it's OK for me to delete them? I know there's no harm in keeping them, but I'm finicky ;) See you around the block, – riana_dzasta 10:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Glen

I have a question? How come your userpage is your talk page? What happened to your userpage? King Lopez 07:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hello Glen...

Hello, Glen! I have a question - how do I update the information in my User:Kungming2/Stats page? Thanks, and all the best. –- kungming·2 (Talk) 07:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] motion capture

I have resisted re-listing our company information on the motion capture web pages. Could someone less biased than I am please police it. Several companies are now listing themselves including the one that first challenged me. I lose either way. I'm banned, and they aren't, and I look / am vindictive. Tmcsheery 06:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Socks

I'd like to report a couple of socks to you, but first a little back story. I started Designer Whey Protein and Biological Value a while ago. As you know, because you blocked him, there was a sockpuppeteer operating there. A sock came complaining on my talk page about the Biological Value article, I went out of my way to notify a ton of science experts to work on the article (over 50 which took a while becuase I didn't know where to find them), not knowing he was a sock. Anyway Yankees identified him as a sock and tagged him, so I moved on and started the Michael Jordan FAC which I've been planning for months. I decided I'd try to get back to the article, get the tags off of it, and see if I can get an expert to work on it later.

However today Designer was tagged for deletion and as spam by a new account and an anon, who have admitted they are the same account. I argued it shouldn't be deleted as it has 106,000 google hits and there are surely non-notable indepent sources which could be used to verify it's existence. I tried to provide some but they were admittedly weak and it will probably get deleted. I've been extremely busy with the Michael Jordan FAC, so I'm not going to argue for it anymore (Although Bill Phillips mentions it in his Supplement review and I'm sure there are of articles in bodybuilding mags talking about it, as it was the first brand of Whey protein to hit the market and be successful). This isn't about the afd as I'm sure it will get deleted and I don't really care about it anymore. However, all of a sudden this was left on my talk page:[5] and I'm not sure what to do. I'm telling you all this instead of reporting on the official page as you are already familiar with it, I notified the other two admins who blocked socks of the original sockpuppet. Bssically my interest in those two articles in reaching negative integers and would like to be left alone by all these socks and single purpose accounts. Thanks in advance. Quadzilla99 18:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I've been watching this as well, though I believe that ProteinMax (talk · contribs) is in fact Messenger2010 (talk · contribs). I don't think the other user (Quartet) or the IP 74.13 is also a sockpuppet of Messenger2010. Messenger2010's IP socks all started with 63.17, and this abusive puppeteer and all his socks were all very pro whey protein, to the point of fabricating material in order to have certain POV edits inserted supporting whey - so it wouldn't make sense for him to attempt to start deleting whey protein-related articles. The 74.13 IP has also edited TrimSpa (I have that one on my watch list) and made some decent edits - something Messenger2010 and his socks do not normally do.
By the way I voted to delete the Designer Whey article (sorry) - I think the material should be moved into a newly created NEXT Proteins article instead of having it's own article. Even though I put much effort and time into the article, I have to admit it's pretty much advertising. It does not have notability like say Hydroxycut or Met-Rx that would warrant giving it it's own article - at least not in my opinion. Yankees76 19:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Like I said I don't really care anymore (to put it mildly), I've been working on other more important articles that I have more interest in (like Michael Jordan, whose grueling FAC swelled to 134 kb before it was re-set). I'd like to get the socks off my talk page basically and don't really care that much about either article. Quadzilla99 19:44, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Just delete their comments then and ignore any further baiting. That's probably the best advice I can give you. At least he's not wasting time by going through your edit history and vandalizing all the articles you've worked on like they do with me every few weeks. If you need my help for anything, let me know. Cheers. Yankees76 20:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Glen, could you please do a sock check on User:Yellowbeard. He proposed an AfD claiming it was OR when it clearly was not and has no user page. HIs discussion page only has a welcome message and one message left by another user.--Fahrenheit451 20:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:UW future?

Hi Glen,

Sorry for the blatant spam, but you have yourself down as interested at WikiProject user warnings WP:UW. There is a discussion on going here that might be of interest to you about the future of this project. There are two strawpolls on the talk pages and the second one is about the future of the WP:UW project. Now we have the end in sight we are looking at wrapping up the project and merging it with Template messages/User talk namespace WP:UTM and creating a one stop shop for all userspace template issue. As you have yourself down as interested in this project we thought you may have some input on this issue, and would like you to visit the discussion and give any thoughts you may have on the matter. Cheers Khukri 10:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Ian King

Can you take a look at the article on Ian King. Currently it seems that subject lack notability big time. Aditya Kabir 15:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Sid Haig Page

We have another one... right here. I just reverted his latest attempt. Maybe a warning is in order? I also still need to know how to archive that spat on the discussion page. If there's a link to instructions, that's fine, too. Thanks in advance!Spirot 02:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ken Foree page/DeadCentral

Hi again. For what it's worth, I can vouch for DC as Ken's webmaster as well as Sid's, and I told him to just add the same type of licensing statement to Ken's site to use the bio here. Just trying to help. =)Spirot 03:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


Thank you Miss Spirot! Glen could you look into this user 84.68.162.114 he's constantly changing the facts on Kens wiki, and I did as you suggested quite clearly, changed things to a less advertisement style and kept it factual. All facts were written specificly by Ken in his Biography on his website, for his website and I sourced the information to his Bio page. I also added a "licensed for use by wikipedia" on Mr.Foree's website to authorize the use of this information, as Spirot & yourself suggested. I'm tired of re-writing the facts over & over again because this individual believes he has more accurate information than the person who the wiki actually about. I would appreciate your intervention if possible.=) DeadCentral

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