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[edit] On the notability of Gleason corp

[edit] KingAlanI's original comments

I started the article with intent to greatly expand on it shortly. Notability of Gleason: Gears made by Gleaosn or on Gleason-designed machines are used extensively in various type sof mechanical applications. KingAlanI 01:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

"It takes a company in motion to keep the world in motion. In a world that needs to move, Gleason is a global leader in gear production technology. Today, gears made with GLEASON® technology are used in a wide variety of industries all over the world.

Gears manufactured on Gleason machines can be found in the air, in space, on sea and on land. From airplanes to tractors and from power tools to roller coasters, Gleason gears can be found everywhere in a world that needs to move."

As the importance is phriased on a page on the official corpate website (http://www.gleason.com/info.html) KingAlanI 01:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Perel's comment

Well, expand it quickly, and please do read our citation guidelines, our Verifiability guidelines, and our policy on original research. Unfortunately, personal interviews which have not been published and an official company website isn't enough to establish notability. I did a quick Google on the company's name in the news, and didn't find anything out there that establishes their notability by our standards. Just a couple articles of local interest. If this company has, say, been written up in a major business magazine as more than a 'puff piece', that's certainly worth mentioning. Perel 03:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another comment from KingAlanI

I know it's a large notable coproration because of their role in the gear industry, but I don't know of any outside sources I can use for the notability standard. I'll try to look sometime in the near future...

[edit] Follow-up on the notability of Gleason corp

This corporation is indeed extremely notable in the field of history of technology; the fact that it has no fame among the general public is only because of the general lack of knowledge about the history of technology with respect to machining during the period of 1850-1950. Everyone knows Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, and so forth, but lacks a deeper understanding about William Sellers, Joseph Whitworth, and others who figured out how to mass-produce the gee-whiz inventions. To put it in perspective, the Gleason corp is as important in the machine tool industry as IBM in computers, Ford in automobiles, Krupp in ordnance, etc.; but since most people don't know what a machine tool is, they have no idea. (And reading Wikipedia's current article on machine tools is not, unfortunately, going to educate them very well. We'll eventually change that.) However, the modern world literally would not exist without the gear-cutting technology pioneered by Gleason. I too will try to make some time in coming weeks to cite some references in this article so it doesn't get unduly deleted. Lumbercutter 03:14, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm coming to the conclusion that it will require some actual university research with access to JSTOR in order to expand this article properly. That does not mean original research, it just means some more-than-armchair-level uncovering of appropriate specialized secondary sources—academic journals, gray literature, etc. I'm gathering that apparently Gleason Works was a principal pioneer at each step of the way, from bevel to spiral bevel to hypoid gear-cutting, although I haven't yet found any jackpots of great sources to cite. The biggest problem with the history of technology is that knowledge of it is poorly distributed, with a few experts here and there knowing a lot and most of us knowing next to nothing (except layperson stuff like Thomas Edison and his lightbulbs). I suggest leaving this article in existence for now as a stub, pending the time in years and decades to come when Wikipedia may amass a much greater body of information on the history of technology, including firms like Gleason Works. Lumbercutter 03:45, 16 February 2007 (UTC)