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[edit] Arbcom case
I've taken the whole set of Macedonia-related edit warring to the Arbitration committee. You are named as a party to the case. Please see WP:RFAR#Macedonia. Thank you, Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 00:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
- The above arbitration case has closed, and the final decision may be found here. Any uninvolved administrator may, on their own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working on Balkans-related articles if that editor fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, the expected standards of behavior, or the normal editorial process. Discretionary sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the administrators' noticeboard, or the Committee. For the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 02:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Discourse
Kosovo is not a country. It is neither part of Serbia nor independent nor part of "Ethnic Albania". It is an occupied international province. I had a far greater rant written out her, but it was too offensive even for my tastes so I deleted it. No reason for hard feelings.
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- Kosovo is a country. Lack of recognition by Russia and a bunch of authoritarian countries does not turn it into a(n internationally-occupied) province. The international presence there is a consensual action of western democracies to provide Kosovo with security and assist in development. As to the monasteries issue, I don’t regard it as a serious proposal and I don’t bother much about the proposal itself. But Kosovo’s cultural heritage has been exploited enough by Serbia. It is up to Kosovars to decide on matters of their cultural heritage anyways.--Getoar (talk) 07:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Seriously though. I would like to know how you feel about the proposal to move the Serbian Orthodox monasteries out of Kosovo and into Serbia Gkmx (talk) 00:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC) Dismissing the legal authority of Russia and China as irrelevant due to them being "authoritarian" is not a valid argument. How can Russia and China possibly be more authoritarian than the largest (currently operating) empire in our world that pursues illegal military action wherever it damn well pleases. Don't even start to get into suggesting what constitutes a democratic nation and what does not. Democracy for the U.S. exists only at the local level (i.e. within its borders). There is no principle of equality among humans in U.S. foreign relations. I meant to ask you earlier the following: What kind of reaction do you believe would come from the Albanians in Kosovo to the aforementioned proposal (the transplantation of the monasteries)? I know it is not a serious proposal at this point, but I hope that will change.Gkmx (talk) 14:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
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- I said, no more exploitation. That's the Albanian answer I believe. On the other hand, I did not dismiss China’s or Russia’s legal authority because of authoritarianism; and I said that Kosovo is a state regardless of their stance. And, if you are located in Russia or some other country like it, I understand your position and I will gently accept your compulsion to criticize “American imperialism." You do not want to share the same destiny as the many journalists and others murdered because of their exercise of free speech, and you do not want to be in the shoes of the people of Tibet crunched by Communist Party of China. That’s a tough situation, just like having your name crossed out of the ballot because you are “reactionary” and "a threat to the Islamic rule of Iran." I understand! But just to let you know, I can say whatever I want because there is the First Amendment of the American Constitution that enables me to do so, and it is this democratic system that will hopefully one day provide a better life for the people of Afghanistan and Iraq. Until then we have to fight and win our War on Terrorism!--Getoar (talk) 19:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your response. Seems as though there's no point in my trying to alter your views regarding which nationality has the right to the property of the Serbian Orthodox Church (though I will respond). Spreading of democracy to individual nations is wonderful as you described. The problem lies within the relations of individual (democratic) states that do not treat one another in a democratic fashion (i.e. Violating rights of the nation). The Albanians in Kosovo enjoying demolishing monastic lands whereas the Serbians enjoy preserving them and worshiping in them. Naturally, the appropriate conclusion is that the monasteries remain in Kosovo where their presence is so desired. -That would be sarcasm. Since you indicated your nationality and suggested mine, I'll clarify it a bit - I too am an American. Also, I don't mean disrespect. I'd like to conclude with saying that I believe the self-determination of the Albanians in Kosovo is justified, however the means under which that self-determination is being brought about is the unjustifiable part. No hard feelings I hope.Gkmx (talk) 20:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC) I should clarify this, I am not an American, but I am residing temporarily in the states for education purposes. I am a Kosovar Albanian and highly value our cultural heritage; I am sure that the Albanians do not enjoy “demolishing monastic lands” as long as Serbs worship in them and do not turn them into sedition venues. However, the Albanians have grown immune to provocations and organized unrests and will continue to tolerate. The losing side will always feel like the law has been misinterpreted, but we realize the positive sides of Kosova’s independence. Moreover, given the support for Kosova from the free and democratic states we come to realize the correct interpretation of international laws. As to the foreign policy issue, it is a realist administration achieving liberalist goals, which can not be attained if state actors do not function within the same political frame. Sometimes, we have to fight.--Getoar (talk) 20:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC) P.S. I say WE because the Albanians fully support the United States in their capacity and Albania has deployed its troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.--Getoar (talk) 20:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to sincerely congratulate you on coming to the US for your education - certainly not an easy task as only the most promising students are chosen. What you say is not unreasonable regarding interpretation of international law. You wrote, "the free and democratic states we come to realize the correct interpretation of international laws". Where we differ is in our comprehension of what constitutes democracy and democratic behavior. I've stated what I believe to be democracy. This has been an enjoyable dialogue. Best of luck with your studies. Peace. Gkmx (talk) 21:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for the kind words. At the beginning I thought you were just one of the blind-folded ardent supporters of “revolutionary” regimes (actual dictatorships) showing your solidarity with Serbia. Now I do understand your point of view, it’s just that my circumstances do not allow me to be tolerant of any regime that is suppressive to its people and I do justify actions against them; they are a natural threat to a free country after all. I hope this clarifies my rationale behind the earlier tone.--Getoar (talk) 15:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] RE:Message regarding revert
I guess I can also say that Montenegrin/Serbian Cyrillic wouldn't be preferable so I will stop reverting this edit of yours but I also must say that the montenegrin language is there and can not be ignored. So in cases where the name in montenegrin/serbian differs from that in english you cant just say Serbian, but in the case of Podgorica anyway , it's name is in montenegrin so I guess it would be preferable to say just Serbian Cyrillic .Also , it doesn't matter if the montengrin language is politically fabricated, the point is that it is there and it can not be ignored by Wikipedia. Out of subject: I heard that the montengrin alphabet is going to be modified to contain 33 letters in order to be different from the serbian one, is this true ?
As for your second paragraph, firstly thank your, lets say compliment, about the albanians.Secondly, I am not trying to culturally divide the serbs, if it is anyone who is doing that it is themselves. Was it us (albanians) who made montengro independent ?Did we also make bosnia independent? Are we perhaps trying to make Voivodina independent as well? No my friend, sure we supported the independence of these countries but it's not like we caused them. And just because I support the independence of Voivodina and Sandzak that doesn't mean that I will (or can at that matter) do anything to make it come true.Also , the only reason why I edit montenegro-related articles is because I consider montenegro somehow like my second home, how you ask? Well I am partly from Ulcinj, which means (It doesn't necessarily mean this but in my case this reality, believe it or not) I am a citizen of montenegro and like the place a lot.
Finally, I accept that I am not completly neutral on the matter but I think you must agree that you aren't either.An ddont consider this whole argument as provocative because it isn't, I do not want to ethnically fight with you --Cradel 08:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Your recent edits
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[edit] Toronto Demographics
Located here: [1].--Thewanderer (talk) 15:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: ulcinj
No actually there is no tension at all, I think Ulcinj would make a great example of how two (or more) ethnicities can live together in peace.Anyway have a great trip :)--Cradel 10:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
