Talk:GIUK gap

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[edit] Dubious point

"Only France, Spain, and Portugal have direct access to the ocean in a way that cannot be easily blocked at a choke point by the Royal Navy." What about the Republic of Ireland? I know the Irish Naval Service is no great shakes, but the assertion seems to be about location rather than matériel. jnestorius^(talk) 23:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure that "major European nations" qualification will include Portugal. Also, Italy, Croatia, Greece, and Turkey are cut off by Gibraltar, which is British-guarded but has no connection to the GIUK. It might be simpler to list the navies cut off by the GIUK, which amounts to Russia's, Germany's, and some smaller fry. jnestorius^(talk) 17:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I think you're overstressing the point, the article does not claim that these nations are blocked by the GUIK gap, but simply by a Royal Navy chokepoint. The GUIK gap is only one of these, as you note, Gibraltar is another fine example. Maury 23:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

There are three groups of countries:

blocked by GIUK
blocked by another chokepoint
not blocked.

I am suggesting that (1) is more relevant to a GIUK article than (3) is. The current sentence relates to (3) ("Of the major European nations, only France, Spain, and Portugal have direct access to the ocean in a way that cannot be easily blocked at a choke point by the Royal Navy.") If you don't want to enumerate the countries in (1) then I would suggest simply deleting the sentence altogether. jnestorius^(talk) 23:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I think sentence should stay. One could also say "continental European nations" instead of "major European nations". -- Petri Krohn 12:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with "continental" - as well as Ireland, there is Iceland itself of course. Booshank 20:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

This article is a good addition to Wikipedia. As time permits, I encourage adding some material on the Canadian and U.S. role in patrolling the gap in WW2 and the Cold War. --A. B. ^(talk) 14:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)